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re: The committee is there to vote "the best four teams" in America into the playoffs.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:17 am to meansonny
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:17 am to meansonny
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Bama losing to the #4 team means they probably aren't a top 4 team.
But Ohio state loses to a Purdue and they can get in?! Gtfo
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Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:23 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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That's YOUR logic, the winner of a championship game is the best team.
No, that's exactly what I was saying your logic was based on what you posted...going back to your post I was replying to, what exactly was your point?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:25 am to EarlyCuyler3
drunk posting at 9 o'clock in the morning?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:28 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I don't answer subjective questions with a simple yes or no.
The defense rests! 
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:32 am to Crimson1st
Coachcrisp says, "the Nat'l champion (a.k.a. best team in America)" here and I replied, "How do you reconcile that the winner of the national championship game is the best team in the nation, but the winner of the conference championship game is NOT the best team in the conference?
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Crisp should be consistent. If you think the winner of the national championship game is the best team in the nation, you should consider the winner of a conference championship game the best team in the conference.
No one yet ITT has said anything that makes sense to dispute that.
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what exactly was your point?
Crisp should be consistent. If you think the winner of the national championship game is the best team in the nation, you should consider the winner of a conference championship game the best team in the conference.
No one yet ITT has said anything that makes sense to dispute that.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:33 am to coachcrisp
If you don't want bullshite answers, don't ask bullshite questions.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:35 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you have so much confidence that a panel of so-called experts can determine who the best 4 teams are, why not just let them decide who the single best team is?
That goes back to my point.... this committee, while not stated, looks at which matchups will make the most money. One example would be when people say something like, nobody wants to see 2 sec trans in the playoffs. Well, you want the 4 best... why is uga 4 or bama one of the 4 best this week, but after a loss to each other they would no longer be one of the 4 best? That makes no sense. They rank these teams for a reason. Are you telling me now that the ranking means nothing? Hypothetically, why would a 1 loss bama team (to #4 uga) ge jumped by Oklahoma or Ohio state? Take a 1 loss uga that gets beat by the #1 team. Are they now no better than Ohio state that was beaten by Purdue in a landslide.
Point is, it’s all completely stupid. We need conference champions in the playoffs, not perceived “best” teams...whatever best means.
Discussions like this is why we have the committee and not something similar to nfl. They want this buzz. It generates ratings. It’s actually pretty genius.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:42 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, it doesn't, they are both determined by a championship game. You seem to think that teams in conference championship games are just randomly selected, but they are selected on best records in the conference over the course of the season.
Oh Jesus, you really can't be this dense can you?
The Natty playoffs come from 4 top tier teams...a random shitty team will NOT be in the mix to even be in the playoffs...follow closely now...in the conference championship games there are many divisions within the conferences who have a top to bottom mediocre to shitty slate of teams. So I don't care how many games they count in a season, if you have 6 or 7 crappy teams in a division, one of those crappy teams will wind up playing in their conference title game. If by happenstance they win the Conference Championship Game, that DOES NOT automatically mean they are the best team in their conference even if they win the game that counts to call the team "Conference Champs".
Therefore, as my post states, a Conference Champ could theoretically have four or five losses based on how the conference title games are allocated. Obviously that team would not belong in a Natty playoff nor the discussion on if they were the best team in their conference sitting there with numerous losses after having won the one championship game. On the other hand as I mentioned the Natty title game would not have some back doored four loss team even playing in it. That's what I meant by my post.
So yes a Conference Champ can potentially easily be refuted as their conference's best team, even with the title from winning the title game, whereas the Natty winner has pretty much shown they are the best by virtue of how the games are set up.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:44 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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If you don't want bullshite answers, don't ask bullshite questions.
You won't answer because if you say yes, the conversation's over, BUT if you say no, you'll rightfully look like the simple clown that you actually are, so....you'll just have to sit in the corner you've painted yourself into and wait until the paint dries....you really screwed this thread up, huh, Sport? Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:44 am to Crimson1st
Thanks for confirming that all you really care about is making sure the postseason remains the pageant that it has always been.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:48 am to bamabonners
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Are you telling me now that the ranking means nothing?
I'm telling you that the rankings simply represent people's opinions. And since the days of poll champions being selected, the number of people in the sample being polled has become smaller and smaller.
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Point is, it’s all completely stupid. We need conference champions in the playoffs, not perceived “best” teams...whatever best means.
Well, holy shite, here it is. We are in COMPLETE agreement.
My playoff proposal is simply the top 8 conference champions seeded by SOS, quarterfinals at higher seed's home, semi and finals remain as they are. A tournament of champions. No subjective opinion polls, no byes, no wildcards. Simple, fair, objective.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:48 am to coachcrisp
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Sport
That really ate you the frick up, didn't it, hero?
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You won't answer because
I'm not answering a subjective question with an absolute. That's idiotic. I'll say that Alabama looks like one of the four best, but who cares about that? "Eye test" is a stupid way to pick a champion. Champions win. If they don't win today, they aren't champions, champ.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:55 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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If they don't win today, they aren't champions, champ.
Didn't seem to matter last year.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:56 am to Crimson1st
Stopped reading here:
Why do you think they would be?
You're posting a whole lot of words based on a false assumption.
Even if you just took the four best conference champions based on SOS, you're NOT going to have 5-loss conference champion in the mix.
Why, being a fan of a school with - by far - the most SEC titles, are you so scared of conference championships? Why do you support making them obsolete?
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a random shitty team will NOT be in the mix to even be in the playoffs
Why do you think they would be?
You're posting a whole lot of words based on a false assumption.
Even if you just took the four best conference champions based on SOS, you're NOT going to have 5-loss conference champion in the mix.
Why, being a fan of a school with - by far - the most SEC titles, are you so scared of conference championships? Why do you support making them obsolete?
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:57 am to TideSaint
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Didn't seem to matter last year.
Yes it did. They had to split their *championship.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:58 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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They had to split their *championship.
Nah.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:59 am to TideSaint
Yeah.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:59 am to bamabonners
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bamabonners
Holy shite. A Bama fan arguing something based off principle and not what’s currently good for them
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:00 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yeah
That's cute. Reminds me of this:
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:02 am to DawgsLife
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Do you really believe Washington belongs in the playoffs just because they won the PAC 12?
It’s not about who gets in the playoffs or not. It’s about getting the correct champion.
If Washington is so bad, why would we be concerned that they’ll win it?
I don’t give a shite who makes the playoffs. I want the right champion based on what’s done on the field.
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