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re: The best estimate for OM's penalties I have seen thus far....

Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:01 pm to
Posted by El Batnaros
Member since Apr 2016
431 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:01 pm to
frick you mother fricker..
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:03 pm to
You're really stupid. A player's punishment is completely separate from the school's punishment. You're in the middle of one of the biggest NCAA investigations this century and are completely clueless on how it works.

Once the NCAA ruled on Will Redmond's case he was suspended for however many games AND we were docked 4 scholarships and 2 years of probation.

Redmond had a $2500 discount on a used car. Discount on a used car? How do you even define that, aren't used cars discounted in the first place? I mean shite, he still had to buy the damn thing. Tunsil, however, got to ride around in new cars for free for months. $7000 worth of riding around in free cars to be exact. AND his family recieved $3000 in improper benefits on top of that.

Tunsil got his suspension, that's COMPLETELY separate from whatever penalties Ole Miss will receive for allowing him to ride around in free cars AFTER the NCAA had already caught him doing it and told OM to make sure it didn't happen again. Instead of stopping it, OM continued to allow it AND supplied his family with $3000 in improper benifits.
Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:03 pm to
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We can compare Tunsil's allegations to our own with Redmond. We gave Redmond a $2500 discount on a vehicle.


Stopped reading.
Posted by El Batnaros
Member since Apr 2016
431 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:07 pm to
He's got a point there bro...it worries me slightly
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:08 pm to
Is that because:

(a) you're too scared to face the facts and actually educate yourself on your own schools allegations

or

(b) you can't read

If you don't respond I will assume that it was (b), can't fault you for not responding when you can't read my response.

Jerrell Powe? Is that you buddy???
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5997 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

- 4 current assistant coaches listed in NOA(thats 44% of Freeze's current coaching staff). They all were in contact with disassociated boosters, helping set up improper benefits between boosters and recruits.


This is why things are going to get ugly.
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:23 pm to
Yep, this isn't just a rouge booster situation. When adding Freeze and the 4 assistants listed, thats 5 of the 10 coaches on staff for OM listed in the NOA. That's, for you Ole Miss fans that struggle with math, 50% of your coaching staff. Half of their staff was accused of mediating improper benefits between boosters and recruits.

If you think the NCAA will let that slide, you're only kidding yourself. Ole Miss bout to get that arse spanked. bad Rebels, bad!!
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:28 pm to
You're learning!! Although it is baby steps, you are moving in the right direction. Being slightly worried is the first step to acceptance! Just remember to look yourself in the mirror every morning and repeat your letter of acceptance to yourself. You'll get there in no time.

Proud of you El Batnaros.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 10:02 pm
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:42 pm to
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I know the source is biased, but
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:46 pm to
It should be noted that I challenged all Ole Miss fans multiple times to back up their claims that the estimated penalties were ridiculous with facts and educated reasoning. Imagine a Yale scientist who spent time to research something and base his findings on facts so that he could publish a research paper. A Harvard scientist reads the first sentence before tossing the paper in the trash and saying "That's bull shite, this guy has no idea what he is talking about, he went to YALE for Christ's sake!"

After challenging OM fans, I only got one response, and it was to point out that I misused the word "you're" and that makes me uneducated. Other than that, crickets.....

Still waiting frickers.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

I know the source is biased, but the post is not. It is based on nothing other than facts from previous NCAA cases. I don't actually have any real rebuttal, so I'm just gonna deflect the real issue, as always.


FIFY
Posted by Central Pork
Member since Jul 2014
1286 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:51 pm to
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God what a bunch of dumb fricks.




Ha, ha!

You squirts are fixin' to get bent over like a double barrel shotgun.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

player's punishment is completely separate from the school's punishment. You're in the middle of one of the biggest NCAA investigations this century and are completely clueless on how it works.


That's what I have always thought. Wasn't that HIS punishment for HIS role in that situation and not the punishment for OM for their role?
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:03 pm to
Yep, spot on. There is no debate here about this, it's fact. Ole Miss's punishment for their involvement will be much worse. As a athletic department you are responsible for your student athletes actions. The NCAA notified OM's athletic department when they found that Tunsil was using free loaner cars. This is a VERY pivotal point in time. Whatever Tunsil did before the NCAA caught him and notified Ole Miss was on him, and that's what he got suspended for. However, after this pivotal point in time, anything that Tunsil did was on OM's watch and the athletic department would have to claim any wrongdoing as their own. After OM was notified, Tunsil was given 2 more free loaner cars, and the OM athletic department did nothing to monitor it or stop it. And don't act like they didn't know, he was driving around in Oxford with the cars and showing up to fricking practice in it. Tunsil had them by the balls and they couldn't tell him to do anything, funny that the one of the most celebrated recruits in OM history will be the downfall for them. What goes around comes around.

This is why Ole Miss got the Failure to Monitor allegation, while it is only a level II violation it is probably the worst one for Ole Miss. This Failure to Monitor allegation will either be upgraded to Lack of Institutional control and/or elevate the the other Level I violations against Ole Miss to an AGGRIVATED level I violation, which in itself could cripple a program. Either way, the failure to monitor will most likely end up being the final nail in the coffin for Ole Miss, Freeze and Bjork.
Posted by YouDontKnowBro
Los Angeles
Member since Apr 2014
1864 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:15 pm to
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Is that because:


C) I'm at LAX boarding a flight to Vegas. I'm not some peasant who is defined by a College football team's performance. It's a game played by 18 year old boys you fricking cancerous loon.
Posted by tjbutler
Anywhere, La
Member since Jul 2015
322 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:16 pm to
Freeze needs to be fired end of story. Can't support a coach who intentionally cheats
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27081 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

C) I'm at LAX boarding a flight to Vegas. I'm not some peasant who is defined by a College football team's performance. It's a game played by 18 year old boys you fricking cancerous loon.


Then why the hell are you here posting?
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:40 pm to
Absolutely. Sanctions like that may as well just lay down the death penalty again.
Posted by DistrictDawg
Starkvegas
Member since Oct 2014
236 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:46 pm to
hahahahahaha.... Someone's a little butt hurt. Don't take it so personally man, we are just discussing a game played by 18 year old boys!

"you fricking cancerous loon".... look's like I got under someone's skin. Truth hurts when it's not what you want to hear BRO.

Enjoy Vegas. Stay away from the trannies, they'll try to fool ya. Also, don't bet all you're money away, you'll need to save some to help pay for yall's player's mom's phone bills!

And please remember, when you go #ALLIN, you might just lose everything!!

Good luck!!
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:47 pm to
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