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re: The Athletic polls 100+ coaches & staffers to name best college football programs

Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:42 am to
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:42 am to
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While I agree that Alabama is a great job, due to facilities, $$, support, current lack of booster overstepping...etc.

I think fan expectations take it out of the #1 job post Saban.

When Saban retires, Bama will have had 5 HoF coaches, and the 2 greatest coaches in history. I would HATE to follow that. And I feel sorry for the next guy.



Here’s the deal, Alabama’s expectations get reflected as fan expectations but they are, in fact, institutional.

It all starts with the dotcom bubble bursting that ended up affecting the state budgets for the public universities. The University of Alabama System responded by hiring a university president out of the state of Texas who promised to enact a plan for revenue growth via out-of-state student admissions. Robert Witt’s plan enchanted the powers that be within the UAS because he wanted to finally marry the academic and athletic mission into one and the same. Competing at a high level in football was an integral piece in his growth ambitions.He got his opportunity to finally hire a coach who was “his guy” in 2007 with Nick Saban. He sorta inherited the Mike Price to Mike Shula mess and had to make chicken salad out of chicken shite while Alabama was under sanctions.

This is one of the big reasons I suspect that Alabama will not fall as far as rival fans hope. Alabama football success is tied directly to the economic sustainability of the university. It may slip but they’re going to give whoever they hire anything they need to win. They have a CEO-like AD now rather than a former coach or favorite son of the alums. Alabama football has been rationalized and I suspect that those who worry about “meddling boosters” are using old information. This is a business and the leading booster partners and rank-in-file know their role.


That's all good as long as Saban is there and you are winning at an unprecedented level. Everyone is patient when you have a guy like him around and your filling the trophy case. As we all know it takes more than money, facilities, and prestige. If you get a coach who comes out and goes 8-4 it's going to be interesting.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:30 am to
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That's all good as long as Saban is there and you are winning at an unprecedented level. Everyone is patient when you have a guy like him around and your filling the trophy case. As we all know it takes more than money, facilities, and prestige. If you get a coach who comes out and goes 8-4 it's going to be interesting.



I don’t think the next coach will have a mediocre year one if Saban leaves before ruining the roster like Bryant in the early 80s. I assume the next coach will have a Les Miles level of success assuming Saban doesn’t overstay and administer a gradual decline unwittingly.
Posted by X
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:47 am to
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I would HATE to follow that

You'll be surprised how many coaches aren't giant pussies.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Yeah, I don't think Miami is a better job than anybehind them outside of NC and Northwestern. I can name at least 3 jobs off the top of my head that are better than Miami that aren't even on that list.


Probably more on their location than anything else and their 5 NC's.

Miami/Fort Lauderdale produces more 5 stars and NFL players than any other area in the country and it really isn't close and the area keeps growing.
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