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The only way Newton sits is if Auburn chooses to sit him
Posted on 11/13/10 at 6:39 am
Posted on 11/13/10 at 6:39 am
Anybody sitting at their computer refreshing every 5 min waiting for the NCAA or the SEC to force their hand better not hold their breath. Slive's MO has been clear for years (Protect the SEC NC contenders at all cost). As for the NCAA, they only make rulings on eligibility after they conclude their investigations. They may make a suggestion on what to do if you want to avoid harsher penalties, but unless they have made their final decision on his eligibility (and face it, when are they ever not dragging their feet on these types of things?)they won't force Auburn"s hand.
Auburn might take the long term view and err on the side of caution, but i don't get that vibe from them right now. Aside from the no comment thing yesterday they have been pretty adamant about playing him. I think that with Newton almost assuredly going pro next year they figure that this is the best shot at a NC (tainted or not)they will get in the foreseeable future. I say that they will play their best hand until they are forced not to.
Auburn might take the long term view and err on the side of caution, but i don't get that vibe from them right now. Aside from the no comment thing yesterday they have been pretty adamant about playing him. I think that with Newton almost assuredly going pro next year they figure that this is the best shot at a NC (tainted or not)they will get in the foreseeable future. I say that they will play their best hand until they are forced not to.
This post was edited on 11/13/10 at 6:40 am
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Posted on 11/13/10 at 6:47 am to Wolf
The sad/aggravating point is that Auburn/Cam have managed to F**K up the entire CFB season for everybody. It gets worse day by day from the Auburn perspective ( they're guilty as shite) and they can choose to man up and salvage the season for us and other top BCS schools. Or, they can play innocent and take the hit after the season when it's too late. If they chose the latter they will be despised by LSU and other schools who be slow to forget this one for a long time.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 6:51 am to Wolf
WHy would they err on the side of caution? If he's ineligible then the whole season is shot so it won't make a difference if they play him or not now.
We know nothing will be declared until the season is over so I fully expect AU to ride him to glory if they can. They will just deal with the ramifications later and the other teams that could be contenders will be screwed.
We know nothing will be declared until the season is over so I fully expect AU to ride him to glory if they can. They will just deal with the ramifications later and the other teams that could be contenders will be screwed.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 6:56 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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We know nothing will be declared until the season is over so I fully expect AU to ride him to glory if they can. They will just deal with the ramifications later and the other teams that could be contenders will be screwed.
What will be the aftermath for the people making the decision if Cam is declared ineligible after the sesaon and Auburn is sanctioned (likely severely, if they played him knowing that he was most likely ineligible)? I would anticipate a number of people will lose their jobs. If your job was on the line would you play him? (You might make a different call if you weren't at personal risk, but is the dynamic the same if you lose your job if you make the wrong decision?)
This post was edited on 11/13/10 at 6:57 am
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:04 am to tigerinridgeland
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If your job was on the line would you play him?
I would suspect those people (HC, AD, other asst coaches and athletic staff) already know and have known the info so to pull the kid at this point could also implicate them. Heads are going to roll if they pull him starting today or play him....I just don't see it making a difference in the end.
My biggest frustration is what it is doing to the season for other teams...mainly Boise, TCU, LSU and others in possible contention for the NC.
If this blocks another team from going to the NC and we find this out once it's too late, AU will be one seriously despised school. If it were to block LSU....there will be some serious hate there.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:05 am to Tiger in Gatorland
You could be right. This whole thing is like watching a train wreck. Sad, but fascinating.
It must be agonizing for Auburn fans, like death by a thousand cuts. Every day gets a little worse.
In the end, who knows what will happen, but it doesn't look good, and there will be some serious consequences for some people, either because Newton is found to be ineligible or because people lied to try to make it appear that he was. This story is a long way from over.
It must be agonizing for Auburn fans, like death by a thousand cuts. Every day gets a little worse.
In the end, who knows what will happen, but it doesn't look good, and there will be some serious consequences for some people, either because Newton is found to be ineligible or because people lied to try to make it appear that he was. This story is a long way from over.
This post was edited on 11/13/10 at 7:10 am
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:07 am to tigerinridgeland
Dey done rented dat Mule..dey gonna ride it!!!
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:13 am to Crow Pie
Cam will play. Auburn is all in at this point.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:17 am to BAMAFNZ
If you paid for a Pony for your daughter's birthday party and a Mule showed up instead ...........would you dress up the mule and give the kids a ride on it or ruin your kid's party?
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:28 am to Wolf
Auburn will not sit him. These group of assclowns are all in and they are going to ride this horse until he collapses. when he collapses however, he is taking the entire program and all involved down with him.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:38 am to BamaScoop
I agree that he is going to play. If you sit him this game, then he is pretty much done for the season. There is nothing that is going to come out in the next week that will exonerate him. If anything, the story will only get worse so if Aub says that he shouldn't play this week, then I think it would be impossible to reinstate him at some point. Auburn would essentially have to voluntarily take themselves out of the national championship race. Thats not going to happen.
The only interesting thing would be if they were to not come out with a statement one way or the other. Then, just have him not start and see how you do against Georgia. If it looks like you can beat them without him, keep him on the sideline. That would give you another week to try to defend him and let him play before Alabama. You can say you didn't let him play but never actually ruled him ineligible.
However, since they didn't actually rule him he ineligible... if they start losing the Georgia game, they could always put him in the game at some point if need be since he was not ruled ineligible. Doubt this would happen, but its just a thought.
The only interesting thing would be if they were to not come out with a statement one way or the other. Then, just have him not start and see how you do against Georgia. If it looks like you can beat them without him, keep him on the sideline. That would give you another week to try to defend him and let him play before Alabama. You can say you didn't let him play but never actually ruled him ineligible.
However, since they didn't actually rule him he ineligible... if they start losing the Georgia game, they could always put him in the game at some point if need be since he was not ruled ineligible. Doubt this would happen, but its just a thought.
This post was edited on 11/13/10 at 7:42 am
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:42 am to Magiklsu
At this point Auburn is fricked no matter what they do so I would play him and burn in with him.
Its like parachuting into a stadium and you realize your chute isn't going to open. You may as well pull your pants down and moon the crowd as you burn in, what are they going to do to you that is worse than what is going to happen.
Its like parachuting into a stadium and you realize your chute isn't going to open. You may as well pull your pants down and moon the crowd as you burn in, what are they going to do to you that is worse than what is going to happen.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:43 am to BamaScoop
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they are going to ride this horse until he collapses. when he collapses however, he is taking the entire program and all involved down with him.
The program may be taken down, but ehe horse will leave the devestation behind while it rides off into the sunset (NFL) with a contract that will make the original payoff seem like pocket change.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:44 am to Magiklsu
AU will sit him. Grown ups will show up in the end, and the right thing will be done.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:44 am to Crow Pie
quote:Interesting metaphor.
If you paid for a Pony for your daughter's birthday party and a Mule showed up instead ...........would you dress up the mule and give the kids a ride on it or ruin your kid's party?
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:46 am to Magiklsu
AU will sit him. Grown ups will show up in the end, and the right thing will be done.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:48 am to Tiger in Gatorland
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WHy would they err on the side of caution? If he's ineligible then the whole season is shot so it won't make a difference if they play him or not
because the ncaa will come down on them MUCH MORE SEVERELY if they continue to play a play who is as questionable as cam is. There is clearly a lot more than smoke in this situation.....If Auburn plays the guy today, it means they are going all in for this one season and saying screw the overall direction of the program. I got news for you...auburn doesn't win the NC with or without CAM...they will just screw it up for LSU.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:50 am to BamaScoop
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The only way Newton sits is if Auburn chooses to sit him
At this point Auburn is fricked no matter what they do so I would play him and burn in with him.
I disagree with this somewhat. If auburn can prove that they had no knowledge of these violations, and that as soon as they were aware they took action.....then maybe the ncaa would be a lot less harsh on them....jmo.
Posted on 11/13/10 at 7:52 am to Wolf
Auburn's sole NC has an * beside it because of probation and they seem proud of it.Just my opinion,but I think they would love to have another tainted NC to put with it.
If AU and Oregon win out I believe it would be an entertaining Game but I think the Ducks would take the War Eagles. jmho...
If AU and Oregon win out I believe it would be an entertaining Game but I think the Ducks would take the War Eagles. jmho...
Posted on 11/13/10 at 8:03 am to tidalmouse
The NCAA will hit AU anyway....BUT will it be with a hammer or a sledghammer? Thats why AU is smart not to play him and play the "dutiful abide by rules" card this late in the game to save some face. If they choose to play him today the AU brass are stone cold nuts and will be looking at a LONG LONG LONG NCAA sanctioned sentence with a lot of lost schollys....they will be lucky to beat Vandy in the years to come.
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