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re: Texas offense Red Zone ranking - the Melt of MtVernon

Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:45 am to
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:45 am to
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Not nearly as horrible as the post implies.


I heard it on sports radio driving this morning. Been melting since. The jist is true no matter the precise numbers.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8260 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:46 am to
I agree with your frustration. But like I said he is still trying to figure it out. We will see how he calls a game next year with Arch.

And remember we are also not getting blown out like under Mack.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
10238 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:50 am to
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This is a melt? Mt Vernon is no Mt Vesuvius


You have to read on. It's a complicated melt.

But granted, it could use a bit of Bama irrationale.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:06 am to
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I agree with your frustration. But like I said he is still trying to figure it out.


True but I'm struggling to find what he "figured out" from '23-'24. The Defense sure figured some stuff out. That offense? Not seeing it.
Maybe next year he'll "figure out" that fake punts are a legal play.
Maybe you're right. Maybe he does. It doesn't seem to be trending in the right direction.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1404 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:14 am to
You're in the same situation as Bama fans were for the last two seasons. Why didn't the backup get a shot when the starter crapped his pants? Is the backup really that much worse or is it something else?

I wondered why Manning didn't get more of a chance this season but I also have been wondering for two years why Ty Simpson didn't get one snap of a chance when Milroe soiled his pants over and over with the Tide.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19637 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:15 am to
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“ We were not supposed to be in the game against Ohio State.

But with the help of a non targeting call that everyone not retarded knows was targeting. We were allowed to play in the Cotton Bowl.”

Fixed it for you.

Even if the targeting was called, that puts them at about the 50 and they already had 1 field goal blocked, so it doesn't necessarily change the game. It's pointless to argue either way, and you are just here to troll, so you do you..

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Oh, and good job on the moral victory. No one cares about those here.

This isn't about moral victories.. I'm pointing out that Sark helped get us out of the desert, and any notion of getting rid of him is fricking stupid. If I didn't see the same nonsense on longhorn boards, I would question whether these dudes were actually Texas fans or not..

Be pissed. Yell at the clouds. Do whatever you need to do, but yelling for a coach's head because they fell a little bit short is the reason we ended up in the desert to begin with.

shite. Mack Brown was crucified before Vince won the NC, and after..
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:21 am to
you make good points but every point that Vernon pointed out are valid points. We had a veteran OL and a 3rd year starter at qb this season. Statically we were a worse offense than in 23 and continued to make the same bone-headed mistakes and lack of production in the red zone.

Those are absolutely cause for concern. Neither he or I are calling for Sark's head.
No it wouldn't break my heart if he left. I also realize the odds are we'd end up with someone worse. We're just venting.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 11:23 am
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:32 am to
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you make good points but every point that Vernon pointed out are valid points. We had a veteran OL and a 3rd year starter at qb this season. Statically we were a worse offense than in 23 and continued to make the same bone-headed mistakes and lack of production in the red zone.


You also were vying your trade in the not-so-much B-12. Conference champs I believe. Thank your stars the shorthorn gets another less-than-stellar SEC schedule to walk it back. "This too shall pass."
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:34 am to
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You also were vying your trade in the not-so-much B-12. Conference champs I believe. Thank your stars the shorthorn gets another less-than-stellar SEC schedule to walk it back. "This too shall pass."


Conference had nothing to do with it. If we were still in the Big 12 we'd have had the same issues in the playoffs like last season. Our problem isn't with our opponents. It's with our head coach.
It's sink or swim time for him.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19637 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:35 am to
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Statically we were a worse offense than in 23

You mean with X, AD, Whitt and JT? with Brooks & KRob?

after losing Bijan and Rojo the year before..

All drafted.. you don't say..

then after losing Baxter and Clark in camp..
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:36 am to
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then after losing Baxter and Clark in camp..


Curious, what will your excuse be in '25? '26?

Might as well get ahead of it now.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:42 am to
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Conference had nothing to do with it. If we were still in the Big 12 we'd have had the same issues in the playoffs like last season. Our problem isn't with our opponents. It's with our head coach.
It's sink or swim time for him.


Players aren't part of your equation? Health was a major factor before you played your first game and frankly, Ewers has major flaws that Sark masterfully worked around.

If you keep looking for the 2020 BAMA Sark to show up on the 40 acres you can forget it. That Sark worked for the greatest head coach in college football history. That talent was off the charts and they were championship-tested. Coach Saban has had to keep a lot of good coaches pointed in the right direction.

Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:48 am to
season's over. Time to move on. Of course you'd love sark to stay in austin a long time. I'm sure a lot of SEC fans would.
Opinions of random message board assholes are of no concern to CDC. People need to vent.
I seem to recall a few bama meltdowns after the oklahoma game.
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1858 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:53 am to
It's no secret, as a Sooner fan we know texas will always have more talent on the roster.

Sometimes Oklahoma can match them with the first unit but when it comes to depth the talent disparity begins to show.

But there was always a joker in the deck, the one thing that leveled the playing field between OU and UT.

For years texas players underachieved versus Oklahoma players.

Now I don't mean all of them, there have been a lot of great whorns but as a group they never reached or even came close to their full potential.

Of course, we knew why this happened, the sense of entitlement that all those UT players had for being told all throughout their football careers how good they were, how much better they were than the other kids and once they got to college it only got worse.

Sarkisian is the first coach in decades to somehow reverse this process so that they don't just show up for a game and expect the other team to lay down because as we had heard so many times, "We're Texas!".

Sarkisian finally did the one thing to get the whorns over the hump, he changed the culture.

Remember when Ehlinger announced "We're baaack" following the win over Georgia? Sooner fans all smiled knowing the next year they had no chance against OU in the RRS because they were still so full of themselves.

So Sark may make in-game mistakes but he got his kids to buy in and do the work as opposed to expecting it to be handed to them.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19637 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:54 am to
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Curious, what will your excuse be in '25? '26?

Might as well get ahead of it now.

I'm not making any excuses.. I'm simply saying of course our offense took a step back this year.. we lost 6 very talented players to the NFL between 2023 and 2024, and yet, we had a very similar offense. That says a whole fricking lot imo.

It's not an excuse at all.. it's proof that we have the right coach imo.

2023 Draft - 5
2024 Draft - 11
2025 Draft - 8+?
2026 Draft - 8+?

I said 2 years ago, Sark just needs to learn how to win, and he's definitely learned a lot over the past 2 years. Do we have some things to work on? Yes, yes we do, but we are damn close.

This isn't like Riley's teams that got shredded in the playoffs.. we have a legit chance against anyone we play, and if Sark does learn how to win the big games, and if Sark can win a NC, then he might go on a run.

I'll look for my post before the 2023 season. Sark is close.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:54 am to
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season's over. Time to move on. Of course you'd love sark to stay in austin a long time. I'm sure a lot of SEC fans would.


I don't care where he goes. I personally hope you decide to run it back with Mack "WE WERE THE BETTER TEAM" Brown. Make "WHAT IF" McCoy the OC. I miss those poor loser excuses from the old days. Don't you?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62582 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:56 am to
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Hmmm he’s led us to 2 national semis,


Two meaningless games because you got your arse kicked

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1 conference champ,


lol the big 12 in its worst year ever ranked at conference USA level

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top recruiting rankings


Recruits that were bought and by his own admission cost more than any other recruiting class in the history of college football

Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19637 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:59 am to
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I'll look for my post before the 2023 season. Sark is close.

This isn't the thread I was thinking of, but there is some good nuggets in there.. my prediction was pretty good too..

Prediction: 7-1 and going to Atlanta

This was before the 2023 season.
Posted by HorninHouston
Member since Sep 2024
1743 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:59 am to
Fair enough. We'll know soon enough if he's the guy or not.

Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
19637 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Two meaningless games because you got your arse kicked




So your opinion is that the playoffs are meaningless games?

So you opinion is that we got our arse kicked in those two meaningless games?

Stupid is as stupid does..

This is like arguing with the wall. It isn't clever. It isn't funny. It isn't a good troll. It isn't anything but stupid.

You need better material. Seriously.

This is why I said "it's almost like Chicken is paying you.."

It's click bait.. which is weird for someone who isn't the owner.

I'm out for a bit.

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