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re: Texas is a very average team

Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Are you Bucki? Or just the ACC version?


Yes, good question...
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:50 pm to
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He ran a lot less condensed splits last weekend and Quinn was hardly pressured.


You played Florida last weekend. While the OL did a better job, let's not pretend that UF is better than their 2-4 conference record. We'll see how the OL does the rest of the year but the only defenses they've had low sack totals against in the SECC are on teams who have a total SEC record of 3-15 right now. 5-2 UGA and 3-3 Vandy had a ton of sacks.

On the flip side, Texas only got one sack against UF. 0 against Vandy. 1 against UGA.

The only teams they go sacks against were 0-6 in the SEC MSU and OU who's also a new arrival without typical "SEC speed" on the lines this year.

They're a bit slow on both lines.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6548 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:56 pm to
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On the flip side, Texas only got one sack against UF.


South Carolina showed what happens when you sell out trying to get sacks every play.

We didn't need sacks. 42-13. Sacks aren't like points. You don't rack up all you can.
Posted by KAHog
South Trough
Member since Mar 2013
2752 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:56 pm to
There were some momma’s so mad when they knew tech got that arse…
Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
828 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:02 pm to
lol... bad mouth UT and its like whacking a hornets nest.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1435 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:06 pm to
I'd love to play Miami in the CFP. Too bad the only ACC team to make it will be SMU.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6548 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:09 pm to
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I'd love to play Miami in the CFP.


Oh hell, don't scare me like that. I've still got Stockholm's from 1990.
Posted by ACCFAN
Member since Oct 2024
391 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:21 pm to
I'm the Acc version but I'm actually a fan of the whole conference minus fsu
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:29 pm to
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You played Florida last weekend. While the OL did a better job, let's not pretend that UF is better than their 2-4 conference record. We'll see how the OL does the rest of the year but the only defenses they've had low sack totals against in the SECC are on teams who have a total SEC record of 3-15 right now. 5-2 UGA and 3-3 Vandy had a ton of sacks.


Yes, the two worst games Texas played all year all around were UGA and Vandy. Lets not act like Vandy has better athletes than Florida, when your talking about speed, Florida has more and would challenge the Texas front more than Vandy. That did not happen as offensive scheme and blocking was cleaned up. Let also not forget that when your talking sacks, it is important to recognize each teams offensive scheme, the situation. UGA got 7 sacks on Texas, half of that is credited to UGA blitzing over 31% of the time. That is a lot less to do with "speed" and more to do with communication. Vandy recognized Texas's communication issues on middle blitzes and attacked that in our game against them.

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On the flip side, Texas only got one sack against UF. 0 against Vandy. 1 against UGA. The only teams they go sacks against were 0-6 in the SEC MSU and OU who's also a new arrival without typical "SEC speed" on the lines this year.


Are we talking about Lines or LBs as well? You included LB sacks in this. Much like the above statement, you need to take into account situation. Texas was getting pressure on Beck when they passed, but due to the large early lead UGA leaned on the run game. Vandy is a run heavy team, thus there are less opportunities to get a sack. Our Edges played well in both of those games. In fact Barron Sorrell (our third fastest edge) had Beck running for his life.

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They're a bit slow on both lines.


I think most scouts would disagree as both our RT and LT are mocked in the first round. Trey Moore was taking rides in Sabans Ferrari last offseason during his visit to Bama and Collin Simmons is the highest rated defensive freshman in CFB.

The issue you're having is that your simplify it down to and justifying them being "slow" off sacks, when sacks can tell a lot of different things.
Posted by AG87
Anywhere but Austin
Member since Aug 2021
30 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:33 pm to
In my opinion, I think Texas is talented but over rated.

I am not a coach but they have zero running game due to injuries. They rely on bubble screens and dink passing because they have to. They have athletes on the outside so if the defenders play off, they get 5-7 yards. If the defender misses, they get 15 or more.

If the defense presses and tackles in space, like GA did, Texas has no answer. If a defense can do this against them, this allows the defensive line to really attack and dominate the game.

They will not go much farther when the competition gets tougher.

Posted by hookem2522
Member since Jan 2022
1884 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:34 pm to
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Texas is a very average teamby ACCFAN
I'm the Acc version but I'm actually a fan of the whole conference minus fsu


So you won't have any problem telling us who made up the Pony Express?
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
11963 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:36 pm to
Didn’t Miami just lose to Georgia Tech?
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6548 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:36 pm to
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they have zero running game due to injuries.


I’m not sure its injuries. I don’t recall much of a running game since Sark has been here.

We need a bruiser at RB. Sark likes having track stars so we can dink and dunk to them.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 4:39 pm
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
7654 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Their athletes are slow compared to more elite SEC rosters



Faster than Ga Tech players though ?
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:41 pm to
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I am not a coach but they have zero running game due to injuries. They rely on bubble screens and dink passing because they have to.


Half correct, Sark does us the screen game as an extension of the run game. Without a healthy "big" back we have seen more of this, but Sark really loves the screen game to get his play makers in space.

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They have athletes on the outside so if the defenders play off, they get 5-7 yards. If the defender misses, they get 15 or more.


This is exactly why he loves to get his playmakers in space.

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If the defense presses and tackles in space, like GA did, Texas has no answer.

Receivers were running open all night against UGA, the issue was getting into 3rd and long then not having time to throw.

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They will not go much farther when the competition gets tougher.


Bookmarked.
Posted by TexasOnTop
Member since Nov 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:42 pm to
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I don’t recall much of a running game since Sark has been here.


We've had a 1000 yard rusher in every year with Sark outside of this one....
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6548 posts
Posted on 11/13/24 at 4:44 pm to
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We've had a 1000 yard rusher in every year with Sark outside of this one....


My bad, Idk why none of ‘em jog my memory.
Posted by ACCFAN
Member since Oct 2024
391 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:07 am to
Gt has a nfl rb
Posted by bamaoldtimer
Member since Dec 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 7:17 am to
Horn fans, ACCfan is a troll. Stop feeding him
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1435 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:15 am to
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Oh hell, don't scare me like that. I've still got Stockholm's from 1990.



Thankfully we are better than we were in the 90s and UM is worse.

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They will not go much farther when the competition gets tougher.


Who is this tougher competition? Texas A&M? Bama? Tenn? Perhaps you mean the CFP so the three already listed or the ACC champ? Big 12 champ?

The only two that look really tough are Oregon and Ohio State. That still gets Texas pretty far in the CFP. Nobody is thinking Texas breezes through that.
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 8:19 am
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