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re: Texas A&M or LSU: Which Team Finishes Higher in the SEC West in 2013? (Article)

Posted on 5/18/13 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Bernie Moore
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 8:27 am to
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WhiskerBiscuitSlayer


Prove me wrong! SWC was so bad that most were denied admission to Big 12.. Rice, TCU, and Houston were not wanted. Texas has won more SWC titles than all SWC teams combined.

Aggies have always had the potential to be good but have been one of the most underachieving programs in CFB history. Aggies' cheating was so rampant in 90s that SWC collapsed. What is the Aggie bowl record?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 8:30 am to
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SWC was so bad that most were denied admission to Big 12.. Rice, TCU, and Houston were not wanted. Texas has won more SWC titles than all SWC teams combined.


Politics played more of a factor in who got in the big12 than anything else, tbh.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 8:55 am to
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We were beating that arse so bad y'all backed out of our home and home and made us foot the bill.


Congrats for the winning streak during LSU's worst era in history, and yet LSU still leads the historical series. This is what I meant by the moral victory reference earlier, but your compadres don't get the concept of context.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 9:11 am to
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Prove me wrong! SWC was so bad that most were denied admission to Big 12.. Rice, TCU, and Houston were not wanted. Texas has won more SWC titles than all SWC teams combined.


1) it was the big 12. Only 4 teams could join the big 8 or it would have been the Big 13 or 14. So no matter how good those teams were, only 4 could join. Your argument is invalid

2) Texas had 27 SWC titles (6 of which were co-titles). You telling me the SWC was only around 50 years? Otherwise all the other teams combined had more titles than UTx. A&M had about 15 as did Arkansas.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30596 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:39 am to
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Sure sport and we now have the highest winning percentage in SEC history.


False!!

Texas A&M's all time SEC record is 65-85. Texas A&M has a long way to go until they have a .500 record vs SEC teams.


Posted by Sheetbend
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:25 pm to
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Texas A&M's all time SEC record is 65-85. Texas A&M has a long way to go until they have a .500 record vs SEC teams.


Since joining the SEC, TAM is 6 wins and 2 losses.

Don't look now, but there is a new sheriff in the SEC West.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 12:29 pm to
A&M only has me loss since joining the SEC. You forgot that they beat LSU last year.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30596 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:07 pm to
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Since joining the SEC, TAM is 6 wins and 2 losses.


Yes, I added those games to Texas A&M's all time SEC record which is shockingly very bad for such an elite powerhouse program like the Aggies.

All time SEC record:


Texas A&M= 65-85 Win % = 43%



Not bad for a team who is high on moral victories.
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:13 pm to
That's our record against current SEC programs.

Our record as an SEC program is (6-2) at 0.75%. Best in SEC history.

Somebody better start beating us more before we print the shirts
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30596 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:19 pm to
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That's our record against current SEC programs. Our record as an SEC program is (6-2) at 0.75%. Best in SEC history. Somebody better start beating us more before we print the shirts


So you guys erased 100 years of history of playing SEC teams. Is this Aggie logic?

Your all time SEC record is still 65-85. You guys are 20 games below 500. Yall need to win a lot more games to be mid-tier status.
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:27 pm to
First, it looks like you're counting our games against Arkansas when they were a SWC opponent.

But either way, you aren't this dumb. Our SEC conference record is (6-2)
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30596 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:28 pm to
Man, historically Texas A&M not only struggles against SEC teams but also against the other big conferences too.

Texas A&M all time records vs

Big 10= 11-22
SEC= 65-85
ACC= 10-13
Big East= 4-5
Pac 12= 14-15

Win %

Big 10= 33%
SEC= 43%
ACC= 43%
Big East= 44%
Pac 12= 48%



Below .500 across the boards.

Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2085 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Go back to Big 12 where you belong. You ran away from the Big 12 b/c Texas was beating you down like a redheaded step child. So you came to the SEC with your tail between your legs.


Then why was the offer made to continue the series? We left. They declined the offer. If you haven't noticed already, A&M, like Florida, is more than willing to have another big rivalry game on top of its SEC slate.

Actually A&M left the Big 12 with a giant middle finger salute and entered the SEC with a chip on their shoulder after taking shite from basically EVERYONE, save for maybe Mizzou and the SEC folks that knew they just won the conference realignment game.

The Big 12 was a shotgun marriage from the start and was doomed to fail.

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And maybe, just MAYBE, if y'all didn't look like hammered dog shite while going 10-3 people would give more respect.


Losing to Clemson wasn't that big of a deal. Nearly losing to Furman and one of the worst Auburn teams ever was a big deal.

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Much easier than SEC.Aggies pd strong price for being good in 90s. On probation 3x. Spared the death penalty.Texas is only SWC team that competed with SEC.


Yes, because if you don't get caught, you aren't cheating. People that give Aggies shite for making excuses are no different when they make excuses for a team cheating and being good. The NCAA for god's sakes had a horn alumnus making sure A&M fell on the knife regarding compliance. But hey, Warren Gilbert and others should've covered their tracks better.


Also, the horns SUCKED for the better part of the 80s and 90s. That's why A&M ascended, along with having coaches like Sherrill and Slocum.

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Looking forward to giving the ags a warm welcome to DV in the fall.


Can't wait.

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SWC was so bad that most were denied admission to Big 12.


SEC folks should stick to the SEC and quit talking about the SWC, since they have proven to know jack shite about the conference and its history.

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Aggies have always had the potential to be good but have been one of the most underachieving programs in CFB history.


Agreed. I've never pretended that A&M is an elite program. You have to sustain success, and even with a nice 2012 season, all that matters still is winning the SEC and the natties/big bowls.

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Aggies' cheating was so rampant in 90s that SWC collapsed.


Lulz. Nope. Arky left for greener pastures and the horns/A&M were looking for their own. Texas politics are the reason A&M didn't end up in the SEC twenty years ago.

Once again, stick to SEC talk.

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What is the Aggie bowl record?


Turrible. After slaughtering BYU and Ty Detmer, A&M was snakebitten in bowl games for 2 decades.

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Congrats for the winning streak during LSU's worst era in history, and yet LSU still leads the historical series.


Aww, poor thing. More weak excuses. You bitched out of one of the best non-conference rivalries going. Regarding the series, how many of those games have been played at Kyle?

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I'm just not sure where LSU gets this HUGE chip on their shoulder


Just wait until they fall down again. They won't be able to run away like last time.

Do some of you LSU fans just regurgitate whatever your horn friends tell you?
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30596 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:07 pm to
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Actually A&M left the Big 12 with a giant middle finger salute and entered the SEC with a chip on their shoulder after taking shite from basically EVERYONE, save for maybe Mizzou and the SEC folks that knew they just won the conference realignment game.


Right? You can try all you want to spin it that way but that is not the truth and you know it. Texas A&M was a mid-tier team in the Big 12 behind Oklahoma and Texas for the last 14 years. They saw no light at the end of the tunnel from the usual butt kickings in the Big 12. They left for the SEC in the hope of turning it around and to finally gain a recruiting advantage. An area they could not compete with OU or UT in the state of Texas while a member of the Big 12. So you guys ran away with your tail between your legs. Plain and simple.

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SEC folks should stick to the SEC and quit talking about the SWC


SWC was straight up garbage. Texas A&M used to blow those cup cake teams out. Then A&M would be completely over ranked at the end of the season. Then A&M would get beat down in a bowl. The cycle would then repeat.

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Aww, poor thing. More weak excuses. You bitched out of one of the best non-conference rivalries going. Regarding the series, how many of those games have been played at Kyle?


Best rivalries Nobody gave a shite about that game. At best you guys are LSU's fourth best rival today. Nice try Arkansas jr. Beg some more for us to be your rival.

Congrats on beating a 2-9 LSU team 20 years ago. More moral victories for Texas A&M.


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Just wait until they fall down again. They won't be able to run away like last time.


Run away? Texas A&M ran away to a new conference. That is pathetic.

Texas A&M's best team of the last 55 years lost to an average LSU team at Kyle Field. No wonder LSU leads the series by 8 games.





This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 5:52 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:29 pm to
ctiger had a lot on his chest, apparently.

Glad to see you getting some of that hate out your heart, son
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 4:47 pm to
Meh, he was just responding to the other guy that wrote a novel.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5910 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 5:00 pm to
When the SEC is too hard we plan to run away to the NFC with our tail tucked between our legs
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 5:26 pm to
Keep up the good work Aggies. It pisses 'em off!

Having said that, I'm thinking Ole Miss should be in the mix for 2nd in the West. I'm picking them. It will be a tossup between A&M and LSU for 3rd but I'm picking A&M to squeak by. I see Arkansas finishing ahead of Auburn and perhaps Mississippi State. We'll be fortunate to win 7 at the most.

This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 5/18/13 at 5:56 pm to
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Arky was SWC second best team and was 0-5 was Ole Miss during Hogs best decade ever the 60s.

Ole Miss had some good teams in the 60's Bernie. BTW, Arkansas lost 4 of 4 to them. LSU lost to Rice 3 times during the 60's and beat Ole Miss only 2 times during the same 10 year period, being in the same conference.
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Much easier than SEC

Bernie, LSU didn't play any tougher schedule than SWC teams. In fact, during that time period, the only consistent yearly SEC match-ups for LSU were against Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Kentucky...and only beating Alabama once during the 60's. Give it a rest.
This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 7:16 pm
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