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re: Texas A&M/Missouri to the SEC decision could happen soon

Posted on 8/2/11 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by LA kid but AU fan
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 8/2/11 at 3:53 pm to
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Personally, I would invest in TCU due to location.


Dude, I've been liviing in DFW for 2 years now, and I never see any horn frog fans.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4099 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:01 pm to
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Dude, I've been liviing in DFW for 2 years now, and I never see any horn frog fans.


Note the phrase:
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I would invest


Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:06 pm to
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Taking FSU would hurt the ACC more than any other feasible candidate.



Why would this matter?

I actually think FSU could add more $ wise to the SEC than they would bring in because there is a significant population of Florida that is not brought to the SEC fold simply through Florida and any FSU game would garner national appeal. I don't think they have any interest in joining though. They are about to return to 90's form when the ACC was FSU and no one else. Schedule alone is going to put FSU, OU and Texas in many a title game for years to come.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9533 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:07 pm to
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I would be pro UNC, but what makes you think "potential" means anything at all in the SEC when they've been mediocre in the ACC for most of their existence.


I think a change of scenery could actually be a boost for UNC football. I think they're capable of being a middle of the SEC pack regular if they are forced to put more emphasis on football. I think they're capable of doing this without diminishing basketball in any way. As great as the ACC is in hoops, it isn't so far ahead of the SEC that they'd be hurting their basketball program either. Admittedly, I love the idea of the SEC being in the North Carolina market.

A&M is in the same boat. Good football school that will flourish in the SEC outside of Texas's shadow. I don't see the step up in competition as a bad thing for them. A&M's recruiting will improve dramatically imho by being in the SEC.
Posted by TheSandman
Waffle House
Member since Nov 2010
19513 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:11 pm to
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Slive

Doesn't have the final say in getting schools in. It goes to a vote from the ADs (or so I've been told from here)
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wouldn't even be close to the smallest school in the SEC

Completely irrelevant. Why bring them in when there are much bigger fish to fry? They don't fit in culturally, either.
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middle of the pack

No. Just, no. Did you happen to see what kind of sanctions they got? They're in for a rough ride.
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so is half the sec most of the time

And the last thing we need is more bad publicity by bringing in another team hat has been caught cheating recently.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4099 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 4:19 pm to
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Why would this matter?

Because it is good to be in a competitively superior position to your competition.

I pretty much agree with your post. FSU would enhance the SEC product and I doubt that they would join, but I would go for it.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:02 pm to
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Well, if UCLA was in the MWC, like Utah, then they probably would reject them because they wouldn't bring in enough to justify the payout.
wow. if you really believe this, then there's no way to reason with you
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:08 pm to
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Doesn't have the final say in getting schools in
if you think he's not a major, major factor, then you are naive

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Why bring them in when there are much bigger fish to fry?
other than a&m, who? you're not going to get any better than ga tech on several fronts; geography, academics, rivalries, atl market, respectable athletics. people are looking at just one or two factors and not the whole picture. a&m and unc are equivalent and that's about it. fsu is a distant second. va tech and w.va, absolutely not.

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They don't fit in culturally, either
says who? they were IN the sec for decades.

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They're in for a rough ride.
it will pass. they've got a decent program and anyone who can see past the next fb season knows that.

Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:08 pm to
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I want the Aggies


All of them?

At once?

Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4099 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 5:17 pm to
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wow. if you really believe this, then there's no way to reason with you

I can be reasoned with, but the necessary ingrediant is reason. Let's try something.

Case I:

Team A and Team B each generate 4 units of revenue (8 total). They form a two team conference and due to synergies, they are able to generate 10 units of revenue. The administration of the conf consumes 1 unit of revenue so they both net 4.5 units. A good deal for all.

Now they consider expanding. Because of overlaps, when you add Team C, all they can generate is 13 units. The conference still only takes 1 unit, so the bottom line is all the schools now get 4 units apiece.

Why should they do this? Reason, not bullshite, will convince me.
Posted by Big Kat
Member since Feb 2009
5913 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 6:30 pm to
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Doesn't have the final say in getting schools in


I've heard the school presidents know that expansion is imminent and have given Slive full power to decide who is invited. After his decision a vote of the presidents eould be purely ceremonial.

But I've been wrong before
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 7:05 pm to
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LSU fans may not appreciate this fact as much as us Aubs since you made it one year with 2 losses and we got snubbed in an undefeated season.


When Aubie went 13-0, there were 2 other undefeated teams.
And Aubie was winning 13-10 and the like, with only a mighty defense.
The other two actually had offenses.

But, when LSU lost the two OT games, there were no undefeated teams, thanks to Pitt beating WV in a close low scoring affair.

And before LSU's best lineman Dorsey was intentionally injured by Aubie with a block to the knee from behind, LSU had massacred Va Tech, by a score of approximately 48-6. Va Tech finished as ACC champ 10-2. In the nationally televised game Brent Musberger said at half time, LSU could beat some NFL teams. That's why they got to go with two OT losses.


Posted by AAM02
Member since Jun 2010
835 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 7:22 pm to
Mizzou would add to the footprint of the conference and Missouri has a few big media markets that'd be good for the SEC. Their football program has had some great years too. The SEC could definitely do worse.

You can count me as a pro-SEC-move Ag.
This post was edited on 8/2/11 at 7:23 pm
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
Adrift Off the Spanish Main
Member since Aug 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 7:26 pm to
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LSU could beat some NFL teams


That is what the "experts" said about Oklahoma in 2003, before Darren Sproles and K State butt raped them in the Big XII Championship Game and left sloppy seconds for LSU.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21420 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 8:31 pm to
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the SEC is fine the way it is
Posted by Patches
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
336 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:00 pm to
Missouri, what a joke, another Arkansas that brings nothing to the table. The SEC needs to look east not west. That is where the country is focused, nobody even know where Missouri is. Missouri is another second tier(Arkansas)that nobody cares about, it is a pro TV market.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68499 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:04 pm to
Do not want Mizzou.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92616 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:05 pm to
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In the nationally televised game Brent Musberger said at half time, LSU could beat some NFL teams.


lol
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
Adrift Off the Spanish Main
Member since Aug 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:09 pm to
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Missouri, what a joke, another Arkansas that brings nothing to the table.


Who do you pay to remind you to breath?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/2/11 at 9:22 pm to
aTm and FSU make sense. Missouri doesn't even if it would take our product into another area of the country.
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