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re: Tennessee's 6 mythical national championships
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:38 pm to tennfanatic
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:38 pm to tennfanatic
All I know is Tee Martin did what Peyton couldn't.
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Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:38 pm to RMFTBama
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I think you are an idiot. A Tennessee fan started a flame thread about Alabama's "13 mythical titles" that is still on the front page of the SEC Rant. As you can see, Tennessee uses methods that are just as questionable as Alabama, yet criticize Alabama and have received no criticism themselves. It's time for some people to stop being hypocrites.
Bama claims titles awarded to them years after the season and claims the 1941 title in a year where the AP ranked them 20th at the end of the year. How is that better?
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:39 pm to Aubie83
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So I guess that would make you somewhat envious, huh
Not really. We finished 9th that year in the AP, not national championship material. But neither is finishing 20th in the AP. No one besides Bama really identifies it as legitimate without laughing, so no I'm not envious.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:40 pm to RollTide1987
I don't see how you can really claim 1938 (Didn't win the AP) or 1950 (4 undefeated teams and you guys had a loss)
I'll give you credit for one national championship in 1998.
Bama still has around 10 that are basically indisputable.
I'll give you credit for one national championship in 1998.
Bama still has around 10 that are basically indisputable.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:40 pm to Lee County Tiger
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All I know is Tee Martin did what Peyton couldn't.
Al Wilson deserves more credit than Tee Martin for the 1998 MNC, imo.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:41 pm to JB Bama
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Bama still has around 10 that are basically indisputable.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:41 pm to tennfanatic
And how was the 1998 Vols team luckier than the 2002 Buckeyes, 2007 Tigers, or even the 2009 Tide?
The 1998 team got lucky against 8-0 Arkansas, and played a couple other close games against BCS teams, but that's about it. 7 of Ohio State's games were 1 score less, the 2007 Tigers lost to Kentucky and Arkansas, while playing in quite a few other close games. The 2009 Tide wasn't any less lucky than the 1998 Vols.
The 1998 team got lucky against 8-0 Arkansas, and played a couple other close games against BCS teams, but that's about it. 7 of Ohio State's games were 1 score less, the 2007 Tigers lost to Kentucky and Arkansas, while playing in quite a few other close games. The 2009 Tide wasn't any less lucky than the 1998 Vols.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:41 pm to JB Bama
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Bama still has around 10 that are basically indisputable.
How about 8...if its not AP, Coaches or BCS...its not real...
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:42 pm to RMFTBama
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Tennessee claims the following 6 national titles:
Did that make you feel better for claiming several you don't deserve
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:43 pm to ULQQKED
I claim 3 national championships. I am just that damn good, I don't need a team or a coach. I came close my freshman year, but couldn't get the job done.
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Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:43 pm to JB Bama
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I don't see how you can really claim 1938 (Didn't win the AP) or 1950 (4 undefeated teams and you guys had a loss) I'll give you credit for one national championship in 1998. Bama still has around 10 that are basically indisputable.
What about 1951? Didn't UT win the AP? And it's not like all Bama's titles are AP titles. 1940 and 1967 are reaching. The rest are pretty legitimate.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:46 pm to Bankshot
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I think the schools that argues Bama's championships the most are Auburn and LSU since they are envious. The only one State fans ever argue against is 1941, since you didn't win the SEC that year.
It sometimes makes me wish we had legitimate, legacy programs as rivals. USC or ND or Michigan instead of Auburn.
Do you ever see ND or USC fans trying to cut titles out of each others trophy cases? Hell no, they have won enough to be secure with their place in the sport. They both have pre-poll titles just as Alabama does, and yet they don't constantly take fire about it. Auburn has no such history or tradition and they spend countless hours trying to
illegitimatize our history so they can feel better about their own shitty past.
It's the price we pay for sharing a rivalry with a joke like Auburn.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:47 pm to attheua
You have to agree that claiming a MNC when you didn't even win the SEC is pretty funny.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:48 pm to ULQQKED
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You have to agree that claiming a MNC when you didn't even win the SEC is pretty funny.
I don't think UT actually won the SEC in 1950, but that was because UK had one more SEC game than UT for some reason. UT beat UK head to head, anyways.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:50 pm to ohiovol
The 1938, 1951, and 1998 are all qualified as "consensus" national titles. The other three are Bama titles. The difference being that Tennessee isn't obsessed with putting the NC number on every piece of merchandise that exists having to do with the team.
And regarding 1938: The AP was NOT a lone "consensus" poll like it was post-1950. It was just one of several other polls. In 1938, Tennessee was voted Champions by FIVE of the SEVEN polls that existed that year to crown a National Champion. Let me repeat, the AP was not a "consensus" selector at that time and did not become one until 1950 when the UPI was created and AP/UPI became consensus together.
ESPN's college football encyclopedia counts that 1938 title as a "consensus" title. Thats using the same metric that gives Bama 8 titles.
And regarding 1938: The AP was NOT a lone "consensus" poll like it was post-1950. It was just one of several other polls. In 1938, Tennessee was voted Champions by FIVE of the SEVEN polls that existed that year to crown a National Champion. Let me repeat, the AP was not a "consensus" selector at that time and did not become one until 1950 when the UPI was created and AP/UPI became consensus together.
ESPN's college football encyclopedia counts that 1938 title as a "consensus" title. Thats using the same metric that gives Bama 8 titles.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:52 pm to Volmanac
quote:To be fair, we probably would if we had the most all time.
The difference being that Tennessee isn't obsessed with putting the NC number on every piece of merchandise that exists having to do with the team.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:52 pm to ohiovol
I'm pretty sure all major schools that were good in the past claim titles that are probably reaches. Who cares? Bama has more than us. It doesn't really bother me.
This post was edited on 1/20/10 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:55 pm to ohiovol
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I don't think UT actually won the SEC in 1950, but that was because UK had one more SEC game than UT for some reason. UT beat UK head to head, anyways.
compared to Bama losing to Vandy and MSU in 1941 finishing 3rd in the SEC.
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:56 pm to ohiovol
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Who cares? Bama has more than us. It doesn't really bother me.
agreed
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:58 pm to ULQQKED
I do wish we would only claim the three consensus ones, but, hey, bama started it.
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