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Posted on 2/6/09 at 10:32 pm to My Blood Runs Orange
Posted on 2/6/09 at 10:32 pm to My Blood Runs Orange
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The academic funding comes from the state, tuition, and some privately funded trusts, scholarships, etc. The athletic funding comes from boosters, ticket sales, TV contracts, etc.
What happens with one budget has absolutely zero impact on the other.
So those boosters/alumni can't cough up some change for academics?
Posted on 2/7/09 at 12:20 am to My Blood Runs Orange
bloodrunsorange is correct. and this situation applies to us all. i bet all sec athletic depts are financially distinct from their respective universities. this situation always gets joe public riled up when he hears the univ is laying off janitors while paying coach blow 2 mill a year.
fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.
fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 12:25 am to miledawg
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fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.
Finally a poster who gets it.
UT has also funneled millions from athletics into academics over the past several years. Most financially successful athletic programs do exactly the same thing.
I think we can officially kill this meaningless thread now, until 6 more like it get started...
Posted on 2/7/09 at 12:51 am to My Blood Runs Orange
Blood Runs something...
If you don't like the posts, just don't comment or come to the board. You have Volnation where you like to report back to. You can't come here and dictate which threads remain and which ones are "killed". Howabout you "kill" your registration, if you are so disgusted.
You and the rest of "Volnation" have been bragging that you are getting soooo much attention. Be it good or bad. You're back on the map. WELL, this is a taste of what you guys are bragging about that you want over on volnation.
You don't have be here, if you disagree so much with the posts. However, you're getting the attention that your program has craved for so long.
Enjoy it!!!
If you don't like the posts, just don't comment or come to the board. You have Volnation where you like to report back to. You can't come here and dictate which threads remain and which ones are "killed". Howabout you "kill" your registration, if you are so disgusted.
You and the rest of "Volnation" have been bragging that you are getting soooo much attention. Be it good or bad. You're back on the map. WELL, this is a taste of what you guys are bragging about that you want over on volnation.
You don't have be here, if you disagree so much with the posts. However, you're getting the attention that your program has craved for so long.
Enjoy it!!!
Posted on 2/7/09 at 5:25 am to miledawg
quote:Not really. Read what you said . . .
bloodrunsorange is correct.
quote:So has UGA been cutting departments left and right the last few months?
fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.
No?
Might that have in some part to do with 6 million in excess revenue going back into the general fund?
Bloodrunsorange opines that a university's athletic budget and/or program should have no coincident responsibility to the school. I'd be surprised if such athletic-academic uncoupling is actually the situation in Knoxville. If it is, that's pathetic.
A community of philanthropists, boosters, businesses, advertisers, and taxpayers has a finite pool of resources. Neither academics nor athletics operate within a vacuum in those communities. To presume a huge portion of resources can be leeched off toward nonacademic university pursuits without an academic impact is naive. To take offense to criticism of corpulent athletic budgets in the face of draconian academic cut-backs is silly. UGA has the right approach.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 7:58 am to My Blood Runs Orange
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UT has also funneled millions from athletics into academics over the past several years. Most financially successful athletic programs do exactly the same thing.
Yeah like all that money you got from the bowl win this year.
I get it, you're tired of getting the crap kicked out of you on and off the field. Here's the thing though, Kiffin pissed off every coach in the SEC within the last month - I could easily see you dropping 6-7 games next season and you have a weak arse schedule.
Now, on to financing. Without wins and a bloated football budget, the athletic departmant can't thrive off of women's basketball, it can't survive. Ticket sales? Give me a fricking break you guys still had tickets available for the Alabama game last year. Way to support the program.
Tennessee is one of the states that might not be able to meet it's debt obligations. If that happens they will have to default on their bond payments, and football will definitely come under fire. Congrats on Neyland stadium too bad the plumbing won't work and the public schools will be worse than Mississippi when you can't pay for the books.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 8:41 am to NC_Tigah
UGA has the right approach.
Do you read English? This is exactly what I said UT and most other schools have done.
UT has also given millions from athletics to academics.
Next time I'll put it in Cajun-talk....yaw yaw geaux corn dog foohhbaw
Do you read English? This is exactly what I said UT and most other schools have done.
UT has also given millions from athletics to academics.
Next time I'll put it in Cajun-talk....yaw yaw geaux corn dog foohhbaw
Posted on 2/7/09 at 8:43 am to ironsides
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Ticket sales? Give me a fricking break you guys still had tickets available for the Alabama game last year. Way to support the program.
You're right. We only sold 95,000 tickets to the Bama game instead of 107,000. I bet that led to almost no income from ticket sales. I'm glad you were here to point that out genius.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 8:48 am to My Blood Runs Orange
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You're right. We only sold 95,000 tickets to the Bama game instead of 107,000. I bet that led to almost no income from ticket sales. I'm glad you were here to point that out genius.
TN has the biggest football expenses in the country. Fulmer's buyout+new staff-less TV revenue-less tickets is a disaster waiting to happen.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 9:18 am to My Blood Runs Orange
quote:Perhaps you're confused.
Do you read English?
I believe I read this:
quote:I believe those are your words Jethro. Are they not?
UT's academic and athletic departments' funding are completely mutually exclusive.
The academic funding comes from the state, tuition, and some privately funded trusts, scholarships, etc. The athletic funding comes from boosters, ticket sales, TV contracts, etc.
What happens with one budget has absolutely zero impact on the other.
You got caught in clumsy criticisms of journalists questioning spending priorities in the face of UT academic cutbacks. A UGA poster tried to bail you out. However, UGA has handled their situation differently than UT. Successes through Hope Scholarship and other academic programs not withstanding, their Football program made a point of transferring funds to its University in a formal way. It's good public relations. Maintaining that UT athletics and academics "are completely mutually exclusive" is not good PR. So cut out the mouthing and lay out some facts. With UT shutting down academic programs at the same time its Football program is spending money hand-over-fist, what monetary gifts to the University has UT Football formally made?
This post was edited on 2/7/09 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:00 am to NC_Tigah
Florida's athletic programs give millions to the academic programs.
That being said...Your coach needs to grow up real quick. Calling Urban Meyer a cheater even in front of your best friends is just...STUPID. Nothing is private anymore. If your coach doesn't have the sense to get out of the rain then let him go on ahead and be struck by lightening. He is definately not the sharpest cheese on the cracker.
That being said...Your coach needs to grow up real quick. Calling Urban Meyer a cheater even in front of your best friends is just...STUPID. Nothing is private anymore. If your coach doesn't have the sense to get out of the rain then let him go on ahead and be struck by lightening. He is definately not the sharpest cheese on the cracker.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:38 am to hobieuf
Kiffin has definitely been entertaining, if nothing else. 

Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:39 am to BamaInHsv
Kiffin is this years flavor of the month just without the sugar to make it good.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:48 am to hobieuf
quote:Again, not to beat a dead horse, but UF is not UT. Perhaps, as I said before, most of the schools including UT do this. However, it also becomes a measure of extent vs circumstance. For example, you're referring to business-as-usual UF Football gifts to academics. At the same time, is UF making significant cuts in their academic programs due to inadequate funding in the face of an expanding athletic budget? No they aren't.
Florida's athletic programs give millions to the academic programs.
Apparently Tennessee is.
The point being when a babbling UT Jethro comes to an LSU board posting feckless messages and spouting petty insults, he'd be best served at least getting his facts straight. One would surmise that if UT Football was in fact upping the donation ante toward University academics, they'd cite those increases to counter criticisms being levied. Seems that has not occurred. But again, I'm open to facts. UT spent outside of their norm for Football Staff and Facility upgrades. What coincident out-of-the-norm Football donations have they made to bolster insolvent academic programs? If none that's fine too. But don't come to an LSU board "bleeding orange" in the face of all the Kiffin crap and claim you're just like everybody else. Because at this point UT is not like everybody else.
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:52 am to Rocket
...Great picture of 'Ole Conway Twitty...
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