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re: Tennessee being ripped on ESPN Radio

Posted on 2/6/09 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61626 posts
Posted on 2/6/09 at 10:32 pm to
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The academic funding comes from the state, tuition, and some privately funded trusts, scholarships, etc. The athletic funding comes from boosters, ticket sales, TV contracts, etc.
What happens with one budget has absolutely zero impact on the other.


So those boosters/alumni can't cough up some change for academics?
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3243 posts
Posted on 2/6/09 at 10:34 pm to
Well shite....
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2089 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 12:20 am to
bloodrunsorange is correct. and this situation applies to us all. i bet all sec athletic depts are financially distinct from their respective universities. this situation always gets joe public riled up when he hears the univ is laying off janitors while paying coach blow 2 mill a year.

fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.
Posted by My Blood Runs Orange
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2008
1255 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 12:25 am to
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fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.


Finally a poster who gets it.

UT has also funneled millions from athletics into academics over the past several years. Most financially successful athletic programs do exactly the same thing.

I think we can officially kill this meaningless thread now, until 6 more like it get started...
Posted by True Bengal
Texas
Member since Jan 2009
787 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 12:51 am to
Blood Runs something...

If you don't like the posts, just don't comment or come to the board. You have Volnation where you like to report back to. You can't come here and dictate which threads remain and which ones are "killed". Howabout you "kill" your registration, if you are so disgusted.

You and the rest of "Volnation" have been bragging that you are getting soooo much attention. Be it good or bad. You're back on the map. WELL, this is a taste of what you guys are bragging about that you want over on volnation.

You don't have be here, if you disagree so much with the posts. However, you're getting the attention that your program has craved for so long.

Enjoy it!!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131457 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 5:25 am to
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bloodrunsorange is correct.
Not really. Read what you said . . .
quote:

fwiw uga ath assoc is funneling 6 mill excess revenue back into the uga gen fund over the next few years.
So has UGA been cutting departments left and right the last few months?
No?
Might that have in some part to do with 6 million in excess revenue going back into the general fund?

Bloodrunsorange opines that a university's athletic budget and/or program should have no coincident responsibility to the school. I'd be surprised if such athletic-academic uncoupling is actually the situation in Knoxville. If it is, that's pathetic.

A community of philanthropists, boosters, businesses, advertisers, and taxpayers has a finite pool of resources. Neither academics nor athletics operate within a vacuum in those communities. To presume a huge portion of resources can be leeched off toward nonacademic university pursuits without an academic impact is naive. To take offense to criticism of corpulent athletic budgets in the face of draconian academic cut-backs is silly. UGA has the right approach.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 7:58 am to
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UT has also funneled millions from athletics into academics over the past several years. Most financially successful athletic programs do exactly the same thing.


Yeah like all that money you got from the bowl win this year.

I get it, you're tired of getting the crap kicked out of you on and off the field. Here's the thing though, Kiffin pissed off every coach in the SEC within the last month - I could easily see you dropping 6-7 games next season and you have a weak arse schedule.

Now, on to financing. Without wins and a bloated football budget, the athletic departmant can't thrive off of women's basketball, it can't survive. Ticket sales? Give me a fricking break you guys still had tickets available for the Alabama game last year. Way to support the program.

Tennessee is one of the states that might not be able to meet it's debt obligations. If that happens they will have to default on their bond payments, and football will definitely come under fire. Congrats on Neyland stadium too bad the plumbing won't work and the public schools will be worse than Mississippi when you can't pay for the books.
Posted by My Blood Runs Orange
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2008
1255 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 8:41 am to
UGA has the right approach.

Do you read English? This is exactly what I said UT and most other schools have done.

UT has also given millions from athletics to academics.

Next time I'll put it in Cajun-talk....yaw yaw geaux corn dog foohhbaw
Posted by My Blood Runs Orange
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2008
1255 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 8:43 am to
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Ticket sales? Give me a fricking break you guys still had tickets available for the Alabama game last year. Way to support the program.



You're right. We only sold 95,000 tickets to the Bama game instead of 107,000. I bet that led to almost no income from ticket sales. I'm glad you were here to point that out genius.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 8:48 am to
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You're right. We only sold 95,000 tickets to the Bama game instead of 107,000. I bet that led to almost no income from ticket sales. I'm glad you were here to point that out genius.


TN has the biggest football expenses in the country. Fulmer's buyout+new staff-less TV revenue-less tickets is a disaster waiting to happen.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131457 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Do you read English?
Perhaps you're confused.


I believe I read this:
quote:

UT's academic and athletic departments' funding are completely mutually exclusive.

The academic funding comes from the state, tuition, and some privately funded trusts, scholarships, etc. The athletic funding comes from boosters, ticket sales, TV contracts, etc.
What happens with one budget has absolutely zero impact on the other.
I believe those are your words Jethro. Are they not?



You got caught in clumsy criticisms of journalists questioning spending priorities in the face of UT academic cutbacks. A UGA poster tried to bail you out. However, UGA has handled their situation differently than UT. Successes through Hope Scholarship and other academic programs not withstanding, their Football program made a point of transferring funds to its University in a formal way. It's good public relations. Maintaining that UT athletics and academics "are completely mutually exclusive" is not good PR. So cut out the mouthing and lay out some facts. With UT shutting down academic programs at the same time its Football program is spending money hand-over-fist, what monetary gifts to the University has UT Football formally made?





This post was edited on 2/7/09 at 9:22 am
Posted by hobieuf
Florida
Member since Dec 2006
286 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:00 am to
Florida's athletic programs give millions to the academic programs.
That being said...Your coach needs to grow up real quick. Calling Urban Meyer a cheater even in front of your best friends is just...STUPID. Nothing is private anymore. If your coach doesn't have the sense to get out of the rain then let him go on ahead and be struck by lightening. He is definately not the sharpest cheese on the cracker.
Posted by BamaInHsv
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
17889 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:38 am to
Kiffin has definitely been entertaining, if nothing else.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:39 am to
Kiffin is this years flavor of the month just without the sugar to make it good.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131457 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:48 am to
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Florida's athletic programs give millions to the academic programs.
Again, not to beat a dead horse, but UF is not UT. Perhaps, as I said before, most of the schools including UT do this. However, it also becomes a measure of extent vs circumstance. For example, you're referring to business-as-usual UF Football gifts to academics. At the same time, is UF making significant cuts in their academic programs due to inadequate funding in the face of an expanding athletic budget? No they aren't.
Apparently Tennessee is.

The point being when a babbling UT Jethro comes to an LSU board posting feckless messages and spouting petty insults, he'd be best served at least getting his facts straight. One would surmise that if UT Football was in fact upping the donation ante toward University academics, they'd cite those increases to counter criticisms being levied. Seems that has not occurred. But again, I'm open to facts. UT spent outside of their norm for Football Staff and Facility upgrades. What coincident out-of-the-norm Football donations have they made to bolster insolvent academic programs? If none that's fine too. But don't come to an LSU board "bleeding orange" in the face of all the Kiffin crap and claim you're just like everybody else. Because at this point UT is not like everybody else.
Posted by RlTde2
Pace Florida
Member since Nov 2008
4664 posts
Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:52 am to
...Great picture of 'Ole Conway Twitty...
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