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re: Tennesse fans regrets firing fulmer?
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:36 am to ohiovol
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:36 am to ohiovol
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But hey, those two 4 loss seasons in the middle were just awesome.
better than the three 6-7 loss seasons ya'll are enjoying now.
Answer these two questions for me:
Why is it that Lane Kiffin was the best y'all could get after firing Fulmer?
Is Lane Kiffin a better coach than Fulmer?
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 8:37 am
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:37 am to ohiovol
at least he left the roster stacked
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:40 am to hashtag
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yeah, just forget all of the NFL DLinemen, LBs, CBs, RBs, WRs, QBs, TEs
Yeah, look at the productivity he got out of the team with Arian Foster, Jonathan Crompton, Luke Stocker, Eric Berry, Montario Hardesty, Dan Williams, Denarius Moore, Robert Ayres, Ramon Foster, Jacques McClendon, Chris Scott, and everyone else on the team in 2008. Really indicated he was about to turn things around.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:40 am to hashtag
quote:Tough sell.
He's not my favorite coach
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:41 am to hashtag
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better than the three 6-7 loss seasons ya'll are enjoying now.
There's a difference. At least Tennessee has a chance to be good in the future.
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Is Lane Kiffin a better coach than Fulmer?
The coaching on the 2009 team was vastly superior to that of the 2008 team and that's not remotely debatable.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:46 am to ohiovol
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The coaching on the 2009 team was vastly superior to that of the 2008 team and that's not remotely debatable.
Is Lane Kiffin a better coach than Fulmer? Not based on one season. I'm asking as a whole. Was hiring Lane Kiffin an upgrade over Philip Fulmer? The answer is no. You fired Fulmer and then hired a coach that was not as good as him. That was stupid. Y'all should have kept Fat Phil until you could guarantee someone better.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:49 am to hashtag
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you can't fire Fulmer if you don't have a better coach already lined up
sure you can... teams do it all the time.
Clemson fired Bowden and hired Sweeney... BB was a better coach on paper, but Dabo has his team in the top 10, in line for a ACC Championship.
Auburn fired Tuberville and hired Chizik... worked out pretty well.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:49 am to volfan30
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But to answer the question, no. Hamilton not firing Failmer after 05 is why we're in this position.
Our upperclassmen are OVC quality thanks to Failmer.
Perfectly put!
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:51 am to hashtag
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Is Lane Kiffin a better coach than Fulmer? Not based on one season. I'm asking as a whole. Was hiring Lane Kiffin an upgrade over Philip Fulmer? The answer is no. You fired Fulmer and then hired a coach that was not as good as him. That was stupid. Y'all should have kept Fat Phil until you could guarantee someone better.
Kiffin-currently the coach at USC
Fulmer-currently getting rejected by the likes of UCONN and Minnesota
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:52 am to Bobby Moore
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The firing isn't the problem....it was the hiring of K and D.......
Im not gonna lie after Saturday night Im having my doubts on Dooley. I hope he can turn it around but his game decisions were terrible and next year maybe his last on the hill.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:53 am to ohiovol
He won't last at USC..he's just a probation coach,like Shula was for us..
Posted on 10/31/11 at 8:59 am to lowspark12
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Auburn fired Tuberville and hired Chizik... worked out pretty well.
you brought in Cam. That worked out. Chizik has yet to work out. Talk to me in 5 years when you haven't competed for the SEC West again. You fired a coach that went undefeated and hired a coach that had 5 wins. Tuberville won the West 5 times, the SEC once, and got screwed out of a NC. He also beat Bama 6 years in a row.
Chizik hasn't sniffed the success that Tuberville had.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:04 am to volfan30
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volfan30
Tennesse fans regrets firing fulmer?
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If fulmer was still coach tenn would probably be doing very well right now considering how down the east is.
He brought the lulz in recruiting post 02. So not sure if serious...
Our coaching staff was god awful on top of that. I hate him more than any man in Tennessee athletics. Every Saturday I hate him more.
We would be sitting on 13 years without an SEC title with the same coach, and you think Tennessee fans would want that? East titles are nothing.
Or, to put it another way, answer this question:
Who has won an SEC championship more recently...Philip Fulmer or Mike Dubose?
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:12 am to dreaux
They will never admit it, just like we'll never admit it with cutcliffe
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:20 am to OBReb6
Fulmer's lack of recruiting the last few years is what screwed us. I swear he didn't recruit a decent O-lineman between 06-08. He just got lazy and sat on his arse. THAT is why we suck now, along with Kiffin adding insult to injury
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:23 am to Supravol22
Exactly. Other than Douglass, Fulmer really left the lines in a horrible spot. There's a reason Tennessee had to start multiple walk on linemen in Kiffin's year, and then had to start 4 freshman Dooley's first year. It's unbelievable a former lineman and offensive line coach could let the line get in that condition.
I still think people will be surprised how much this next year will help the offensive line.
I still think people will be surprised how much this next year will help the offensive line.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:25 am to hashtag
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you brought in Cam. That worked out. Chizik has yet to work out. Talk to me in 5 years when you haven't competed for the SEC West again. You fired a coach that went undefeated and hired a coach that had 5 wins. Tuberville won the West 5 times, the SEC once, and got screwed out of a NC. He also beat Bama 6 years in a row.
Chizik hasn't sniffed the success that Tuberville had.
Except in the category that matters the most: Championships.
He's matched Tuberville in SEC titles and won a national title. I was also one of the guys saying they should have kept Tuberville and still honestly think he may be a better coach, but the fact is they won a national title, which are incredibly rare as it is. Now that they avoided any major NCAA issues, it's pretty damn difficult to say they messed up firing Tuberville.
I'd rather lose while taking shots at winning then be guaranteed mediocrity. It may suck for a while, but chances are you'll finally get it right.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 9:26 am
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:26 am to wildtigercat93
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Miles is a top two coach in the nation and hes not your favorite coach
No he isn't.
This will be the first year since he's been coaching that he'll lose fewer than 2 games.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:27 am to Supravol22
Cutcliffe did the exact same thing. As well as refusing to fire assistants.
Posted on 10/31/11 at 9:28 am to Supravol22
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Fulmer's lack of recruiting the last few years is what screwed us. I swear he didn't recruit a decent O-lineman between 06-08. He just got lazy and sat on his arse. THAT is why we suck now, along with Kiffin adding insult to injury
You have 3 recruiting classes by coaches other than Fulmer. Do you feel like the talent is better now than when Fulmer was the coach?
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