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re: Tebow vs Mallett comparison (for those wondering)

Posted on 11/16/09 at 1:43 am to
Posted by Mos Def
Dallas Texas
Member since Sep 2009
21 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 1:43 am to
I'm a Florida fan, but sooner or later someones is going to have to admit that Tebow isn't that good of a passer. He can't read defenses, has terrible mechanics, holds onto the ball too long, can't read through his progressions, etc. He's been exposed this season. People love to place blame on the oline and WR's, but any objective fan who's watched us play this season know's what the real issue is.
Posted by Wildcat
Kentucky
Member since Sep 2007
5771 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:12 am to
another pussy post - what's ya'll rushing offense #'s?
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:18 am to
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another pussy post - what's ya'll rushing offense #'s?
We're comparing QBs remember
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13475 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:55 am to
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another pussy post - what's ya'll rushing offense #'s?


We lead the SEC in offense, so it really doesn't matter. We could probably run all over your awful rushing defense, though. It's a shame we don't play you this year or next.
This post was edited on 11/16/09 at 8:57 am
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71561 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 8:58 am to
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We lead the SEC in offense, so it really doesn't matter. We could probably run all over your awful rushing defense, though. It's a shame we don't play you this year or next.




You still need to establish the run to win in the SEC.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 9:04 am to

If we could establish a defense it might work just as good.

As far as Mallett vs. Tebow for first team All-SEC, I bet if we looked back at players such as Eli Manning we could find a player with similar numbers, record and someone who topped the list regardless of that record. I HAVE NOT looked but I am thinking Manning did really well his Soph season and received some post-season acclaim. I know he was first team All-SEC his Sr. year. Point being if a kid can play his way into the top spot, record should be arbitrary. Bunk this popularity BS.
Posted by pankReb
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71561 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 9:11 am to
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If we could establish a defense it might work just as good.


Long runs sustain drives and gives a defense a well needed rest.

I think that your defense is underrated(albeit only slightly). Because if all your doing on offense is airing it out or going 3 and out if the pass isn't working, your defense is on the field way too long.

The key to the SEC is Time of Possession.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 9:17 am to
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Long runs sustain drives and gives a defense a well needed rest.

I think that your defense is underrated(albeit only slightly). Because if all your doing on offense is airing it out or going 3 and out if the pass isn't working, your defense is on the field way too long.

The key to the SEC is Time of Possession.



THis is all circular reasoning. Long offensive drives give defense breaks, while defense stops get the offense back on the field.

You dont need a power run game to win the SEC or have the best offense. You also dont need to have a power run game to have the best defense.

All you have to do is move chains, whether by air or ground. That is all that matters.

And the key to winning in the SEC is scoring more than the opponent scores.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 9:33 am to
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pankReb


I'll agree with you that, in theory, time of possession is a big factor in success. But it's not the be-all, end-all. I remember Arkansas losing PLENTY of games where they had a decided advantage in TOP.

And people need to realize that Arkansas is NOT Texas Tech. Petrino wants BALANCE.

Arkansas was pass happy in the first 3 games of the year, but since then they have ran the ball more than they've thrown it in every game other than Ole Miss. Pass attempts are much higher in the games they lost, with the exception of the Florida game.

Arkansas' defensive problems are between the 20's. They are outstanding in the red zone. It's not a fatigue issue at all. It's a big play issue. The defense has given up big plays to, I think, every team other than Missouri State and Troy. No one has put together a long, sustained drive on Arkansas other than Ole Miss on their first drive, if I'm remembering correctly. We've given up our fair share of touchdowns, no doubt. But almost all of them have been aided by short fields due to horrible special teams play or long passes due to busted coverage.
Posted by Nate Hawg
Hot Springs, Ar
Member since Jul 2009
203 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 10:56 am to
A good rushing offense only helps the qb. What are you guys saying? Mallett has to do everything himself? Sounds about right to me. I think you guys are making our point for us.

That is why Mcfadden was so good. They stacked the box knowing we were going to give it to him. He still burned everyone. Now everybody knows we're gonna pass and thanks to Mallett we still have the #1 offense in the SEC.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20238 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 11:26 am to
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Nutt's garbage leftovers


Regardless of their football playing abilities they're still Razorbacks. I don't think I like, no I know I don't like, a Razorback fan calling them garbage.
Now back to the OT. Mallett > Tebow, Tebow > Mallet Guess it's come down to your point of view. Suffice it to say, any SEC team would take either one and be glad to have them.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13475 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 11:33 am to
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You still need to establish the run to win in the SEC.

I think our game against Ole Miss is the only one this year you could really say we lost in large part due to a lack of running, but I really think that dropped passes were a bigger problem.

Alabama is the only other loss that comes close to being due to a lack of running, but they really just beat us in every single phase of the game, and our offensive execution was just bad in general.
Posted by LA kid but AU fan
Jay Prosch Fan Club: Historian
Member since Apr 2007
4638 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 11:38 am to
I think its kind of an "if a tree falls in the woods..." issue. Yeah, Mallet's great. Yeah, he's better than Tebow. But each week we see Tebow leading his team to victory, and Mallet usually padding his stats in a loss (except against my team.)
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154430 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 11:53 am to
I'm not reading 4 pages so let me guess.

Arky fans are still butt hurt? Am I right?
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 11:58 am to
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I'm not reading 4 pages so let me guess.

Arky fans are still butt hurt? Am I right?
no read the 1st post, that's about all you need
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154430 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:00 pm to
I did, it was a joke.

Our D is pretty good and helps get the ball back for our O.

Tim may not make a great pro. His are solid in the pros.

We get our pro-style QB next year. It's going to be fun to see how the Offense changes to his strengths.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20238 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:01 pm to
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Arky fans are still butt hurt? Am I right?


Yes

We'll get over it though and you'll still be a gay retard.
This post was edited on 11/16/09 at 12:02 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
27972 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:14 pm to
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Mallett is a better QB than Tebow.



Tebow's leadership qualities have become one of the biggest sports cliches of my lifetime, but still, you're down 5 in the 4th with your season on the line, would you really take Mallett ahead of Tebow? Would you take ANYONE ahead of Tebow?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154430 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:16 pm to
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gay retard




I'm actually quite smart.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 11/16/09 at 12:41 pm to
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Tebow's leadership qualities have become one of the biggest sports cliches of my lifetime, but still, you're down 5 in the 4th with your season on the line, would you really take Mallett ahead of Tebow? Would you take ANYONE ahead of Tebow?


That depends. Do we have the ball at our own 20, or the defense's 20? Are there 8 minutes left or 2? Are they playing in CUM's offense or CBP's offense? Are they being protected by a Florida OL or an Arkansas OL?

They're both great players but it's like comparing apples and oranges. I have no delusions of Mallett getting 1st team ALL SEC. It's not going to happen unless something drastic happens. Tebow would have to play badly/mediocre and Mallett would have to shred MSU and LSU. One of those things might happen, but I doubt both do.
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