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re: Sumlin's job security?

Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 6:50 pm to
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Not very secure


Aggies Catastrophe syndrome. It happens to everyone I know. I give Aggies shite all the time and do believe A&M IS NOT this sleeping giant about to take over College Football. That is a false narrative, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be a solid program. Firing Sumlin would be a huge mistake. Yeah the other night wasn’t good but MSU is pretty strong this season. A&M left some plays on the field early and it got away from them. You guys are trotting a true frosh QB out there and a lot of other young players. This team looks more physical on D and is running the ball better. Things you all wanted to see happen. 7-9 wins with that young roster is not the end of the world, settle down.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79990 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:03 pm to
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Firing Sumlin would be a huge mistake. Yeah the other night wasn’t good but MSU is pretty strong this season. A&M left some plays on the field early and it got away from them. You guys are trotting a true frosh QB out there and a lot of other young players. This team looks more physical on D and is running the ball better. Things you all wanted to see happen. 7-9 wins with that young roster is not the end of the world, settle down.


This is spoken by someone who wants Sumlin to remain.

It's not just this season...it's the cumulative failures over the last 3+ seasons including what is staring A&M in the face.

The facts: Since Sumlin signed the extension with the ridiculous buyout, the following has happened:

-Record in 1st 6 games: 20-4
-Record after 1st 6 games: 9-14 (will end 10-17)
-Conference home record: 4-9 (will end 4-10)
-Home record vs. Division: 1-8 (will end 1-9)
-Record vs. the State of Mississippi: 1-6 (will end 1-7)
-Record after a bye week: 1-2 (21-16 win over ULM was only win). Average margin of defeat = 19.3 ppg
-Lost 59-0 in 2014.
-Blew a 21-6 4th quarter lead to a 5-win team playing a true freshman at QB for his first game ever
-Lost a game that he led 44-10 with 18 minutes left in the game
-Had starting and backup quarterbacks transfer 6 days apart with a week to go before a bowl game
-Completely failed to develop players at any position (name one current player on the roster that has gotten noticeably better under this coaching staff)
-Fired 5 coordinators (OC, DC, 2xOL, Strength and Conditioning)

Kevin Sumlin's tenure does not justify extending him or retaining him.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:14 pm to
You make some good points, home and late season records aren't great. I don't follow A&M in the detail I'm sure you do to comment on specific player development.. but I will say this: doesn't this team look more physicall to you than the one that lost 59-0? I saw your game in Gainesville. Would A&M make that late Defensive stop to get the ball back at UF a few years ago? I doubt it.

Your running game also looks more physicall than before. Bigger backs running harder. From the distance and without the emotional investment just pointing out some signs of progress that you may be overlooking when you are dissapointed after a loss.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79990 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:25 pm to
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but I will say this: doesn't this team look more physicall to you than the one that lost 59-0?


No. The team looks just as inept and would have lost 59-0 to that Alabama team as well.

quote:

I saw your game in Gainesville. Would A&M make that late Defensive stop to get the ball back at UF a few years ago? I doubt it.


Absolutely. In fact, it would have looked similar to the 2015 Vanderbilt game, when A&M looked crappy on offense but shut them out 25-0.

quote:

Your running game also looks more physical than before. Bigger backs running harder.


You're not watching the same games we are. Over the last three games, A&M has rushed for 250 yards...COMBINED on 106 carries.

Trayveon Williams ran for 203 yards against UCLA. He has run for 269 COMBINED yards since.

Keith Ford ran for 114 yards against UCLA and 102 yards against Arkansas. The other 6 games, he has run for 152 COMBINED yards.

Trayveon Williams ran for over 1,000 yards last year, Keith Ford ran for 669 and Trevor Knight ran for 614. As a TEAM, A&M may not reach 2,000 yards rushing at this point.

quote:

From the distance and without the emotional investment just pointing out some signs of progress that you may be overlooking when you are disappointment after a loss.


Not a single point you have made is true or even remotely accurate.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33167 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:27 pm to
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He has to win out. The end.




The very idea that you dumbasses give him ANY chance to save his job is
so.
fricking.
Aggie.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79990 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

The very idea that you dumbasses give him ANY chance to save his job is
so.
fricking.
Aggie.


There is no chance. Woodward flat out said that he had to do better than 8-4 to be retained. A loss to Auburn makes that impossible.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:29 pm to
He'd have have to win out
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33167 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

He'd have have to win out


Behold the idiot hive mind in action.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79990 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Behold the idiot hive mind in action.


You have forgotten the face of your father. May you be eaten by lobstrosities.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:33 pm to
I mean, you can't fire a coach after going 10-3.

It won't happen so it's not really worth talking about.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14975 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 7:44 pm to
No one actually thinks that. It’s a hypothetical that someone said playing message board
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