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re: Sumlin says he hired Chavis because he couldn't beat LSU

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Posted by hg
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:08 pm to
Most of you Aggys bring nothing to the table when it comes to these threads. Yall pop in and post "melt" over and over and over without even glancing at the posts.

Yall seriously cannot go a day without posting about LSU.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45164 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:08 pm to
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If you really beleive you have equal talent why does your whole fan base say they would be happy with a 70ish ranked D?

That's just a function of our ridiculous offense.
Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't think anyone's said he'd be "happy" with a 70ish-ranked defense; just that it's about all we'd need in order to succeed (when leveraged against the offense).
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40496 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:10 pm to
Pretty much.

I just woke up from a nice nap and looked to see yet another 10+ page thread of corndog melting.

We understand you are still hurt from Chavis
Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:12 pm to
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What? We have SEVEN frickING 4* athetes in the secondary, not including Brandon Williams. We also have a shite TON.of depth with an equal number of 3* athletes.
Remember that time our running back trucked your senior leader on defense and your team's leading tackler for a TD in route to a win? Good times.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45164 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:12 pm to
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Yall seriously cannot go a day without posting about LSU.

I don't know about that; LSU is in our division, and there are exponentially more LSU fans on this board than there are students/grads from other schools.
Combine those facts with both the history and proximity of our two schools, and there's bound to be some jawin'.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50574 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:13 pm to
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I don't think anyone's said he'd be "happy" with a 70ish-ranked defense; just that it's about all we'd need in order to succeed (when leveraged against the offense).


How many times does this need to be proven false before you guys quit saying it.

aTm's defense was 77th in scoring last year so a top 70 defense isn't enough to succeed. aTm needs a top 40 D, at minimum, year in and out to win consistently.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:14 pm to
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If you really beleive you have equal talent why does your whole fan base say they would be happy with a 70ish ranked D?

That would be one hell of an underacheivement if you do in fact have equal talent don't you think?


Because (theoretically speaking) with a top 10 offense that forces opponents to play the same style of offense, coupled with the only guy who has consistently proved he knows how to stop that type of offense, we dont't really need to care about having a top 10 defense. We just need to be able to stop the spread-type HUNH offenses.

If that makes no sense to you, let me know.


It was the best move Sumlin could have made. I am not going to sit here and guaranty success. But it was without question, the right move to hite the guy who can stop us and teams like us.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45164 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:17 pm to
Maybe, maybe not.
It'll depend on what other teams around us do.
Throw out the 70 and replace it with another number that's quite a bit higher than our offensive output, and that's the bottom line: That sometimes a sick scoring squad can offset an anemic defense.
Remains to be seen for the upcoming season, obviously.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50574 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:17 pm to
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It was the best move Sumlin could have made


Chavis isn't the only one who's stopped aTm's defense anymore. Smart's D just shut you guys out and OM's D embarrassed y'all. I'd say hiring Chavis was a good move but acting like it solved the issue of Sumlin's O being handled is ignorant.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:17 pm to
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So why do more players who play in college make it to the pros?


The NFL doesn't have a minor league to place talent in for years. Less spots to fill.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50574 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Throw out the 70 and replace it with another number that's quite a bit higher than our offensive output, and that's the bottom line:


Giving up 27 PPG is going to lose 3-4 games per year, every year. There's no denying that.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92931 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:20 pm to
what joke Sumlin is


Aggies Reverse Meltdown day 99

Posted by RichardCranium
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
Member since Aug 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:23 pm to
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I just woke up from a nice nap and looked to see yet another 10+ page thread of corndog melting.


WTF? So I guess your either 5 years old or 65 years old or a bum. Speaking of melting I bet its hot napping under the interstate.
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4243 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:24 pm to
lol I was going to say all but one member of the I hate A&M gang was all here, but I'm glad I held off for the whole group.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92931 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:27 pm to
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Pitch To Johnny


I wonder what terrible poster you're the alter of

Posted by goldenbadger08
Sorting Out MSB BS Since 2011
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:28 pm to
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Aggies Reverse Meltdown day 99
We saw 2 "Fire Sumlin" threads last year.. One before the Auburn game and one in December.. Will we see more this season?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:29 pm to
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Chavis isn't the only one who's stopped aTm's defense anymore. Smart's D just shut you guys out and OM's D embarrassed y'all. I'd say hiring Chavis was a good move but acting like it solved the issue of Sumlin's O being handled is ignorant.

You're not entirely wrong. There were other factors. We had an acoholic sophmore QB with a freshman backup to complement our horrible defense that never set up the offense for any kind of success. All anyone needed to do was run the football and we couldn't have consistent scoring drives like we did in the past. We were forced to play ball control ourselves instead of dictating the offensive pace, like in the past.


Again, it was the right move because, now that Kyle Allen has his feet wet, we can be the HUNH and force HUNH in response. The theory is that Chavis can shut down the response.


... In theory.

Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45164 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:29 pm to
I haven't seen LSU GrandDad yet.
That'll complete the mob.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92931 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:30 pm to
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We saw 2 "Fire Sumlin" threads last year.. One before the Auburn game and one in December.. Will we see more this season?


I expect one after week 1 when ASU smokes Chavis
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9255 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Sumlin says he hired Chavis because he couldn't beat LSU
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If you really beleive you have equal talent why does your whole fan base say they would be happy with a 70ish ranked D?

That would be one hell of an underacheivement if you do in fact have equal talent don't you think?

Because (theoretically speaking) with a top 10 offense that forces opponents to play the same style of offense, coupled with the only guy who has consistently proved he knows how to stop that type of offense, we dont't really need to care about having a top 10 defense. We just need to be able to stop the spread-type HUNH offenses.

If that makes no sense to you, let me know.


It was the best move Sumlin could have made. I am not going to sit here and guaranty success. But it was without question, the right move to hite the guy who can stop us and teams like us.




Sit down and watch the LSU vs Auburn game from last year and tell me more about stopping the HUNH. Bama, Ôle Miss, MSST, LSU, and ULM all had Stumblins number last year.
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