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Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:33 pm to
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Didn't Manziel have Mike Evans at WR?

And Cam had Onterio McCalebb.


Yeah man. But there are 11 dudes on offense. And UGA's other 10 were a whole lot better than 2010 Auburn or 2013 TAMU.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:41 pm to
He's never going to be better than who he is and he doesn't need to be. What's wrong with that?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Teams sold out to stop the run


Why do you think this? Uga didn’t have an amazing run game last year, and we often spread the field with deep shots. Teams simply couldn’t afford to do what you are claiming, so they didn’t.

What does this mean? Smokeyone wrong AGAIN.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:46 pm to
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quote:
I missed that (kind of because it doesn't make sense).


It doesn't make sense that I took one of McElroy's years and you took a different one to show me I was wrong.



I took McElroy's national championship year. It does make sense to compare Stetson's national championship year to McElroy's.
In my opinion, it would also make sense to compare McElroy's final year to Stetson's final year.

Logic eludes you, my friend.
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But you still had Stetson's ppg wrong.


Again, you need to read. We're eliminating non-P5 teams. That comes to 35.9 points, so you can round up to 36 if you like, but not 38 or whatever you wrote.


South Carolina = 40
vandy =62
Arkansas = 37
Auburn = 34
Kentucky = 30
Missouri = 43
Tennessee = 41
GT = 45
Bama =25
Michigan = 34
Bama = 33

Sum is 457 points for 12 games = 38.08 average.
Stetson didn't start and hardly played against South Carolina.
The sum goes to 417 for 11 games = 37.9

Stetson is almost a TD better than McElroy in his final season.
10 points better in McElroy's national championship season.

Again, I get what you are trying to say. But scoring 5 points per game more is really a big deal. Shave 5 points off each game of Bama's 2010 season and you have 4 losses.

Hell. Shave 10 ppg off of Bama's 2009 championship season and you have 3 losses and an overtime.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39311 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:47 pm to
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I'm always forgetting offenses field 2 guys. My bad.


You are forgetting a lot more than that.

Aggies were loaded on the OL with THREE first round tackles and they had a 2nd round pick at RB and another quality WR in swope.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14711 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:50 pm to
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He's never going to be better than who he is and he doesn't need to be. What's wrong with that?


Yeah that's what gets me.

Who cares if he's a game managers? That's fine. He's a winner, be happy with what you got.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39311 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:53 pm to
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He's never going to be better than who he is and he doesn't need to be. What's wrong with that?


When stats prove a very different point, it just makes people look dumb to say stuff like this. You have every right to say shite that isn’t factually correct though. Nothing wrong with that besides being wrong
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 3:56 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 3:53 pm to
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Teams sold out to stop the run and the short game last year allowing Bennett to throw to wide open receivers that could run back to balls.


Ummm. Lol

Teams put their defenders in man coverage and Stetson Bennett continuously abused them to the point where his yards per attempt was #1 in the SEC and #3 in the country.

It wasn't "selling out to stop the run". It was challenging their DBs to beat our receiving targets and Arian Smith (34 yards per catch), Pickens (21.4 yards per catch), Burton (19.13 yards per catch), Bowers (15.75 yards per catch), Washington (15.4 yards per catch), AD Mitchell (14.69 yards per catch), and McConkey (14.42 yards per catch) won their reps.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14711 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:10 pm to
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When stats prove a very different point


Stats don't prove anything, though. That's what you seem to be missing.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:11 pm to
Twitter

Has this video been posted yet?

Stetson Bennet related*
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39311 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:12 pm to
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Stats don't prove anything, though.


They prove how good a player played.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14711 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:14 pm to
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They prove how good a player played.



This is the dumbest thing I've read on this forum.

You realize how much context is lost when you just go "durrr look at stats"

There's a reason nobody thinks Graham Harrell is the best college QB of all time.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:19 pm to
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There's a reason nobody thinks Graham Harrell is the best college QB of all time.


1) no one says Stetson is the best qb of all time..

2) because Graham Harrell didn't play in the SEC?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14711 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:22 pm to
You realize the entire point was that stats need context.

You get that, right?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39311 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:24 pm to
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This is the dumbest thing I've read on this forum.


How so? Not even the dumbest on this page. Go back and see your Aggie take. You apparently didn’t know shite about that offense.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:28 pm to
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You realize the entire point was that stats need context.

You get that, right


If you have a point, make it.

What context does Stetson Bennett's stats lack?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39311 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:30 pm to
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There's a reason nobody thinks Graham Harrell is the best college QB of all time.


You don’t even know the reason. Let me explain:

His best passer rating was 160, which was 8th best in the nation that season.

The stats don’t support such a claim.

quote:

You realize how much context is lost when you just go "durrr look at stats"


Most people aren’t knowledgeable enough to discuss context.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Hambone123
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14711 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 4:54 pm to
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His best passer rating was 160, which was 8th best in the nation that season.



Passer rating is one of the most widely flawed & mocked stats in all of sports. It's effectively a YPA rating.

But again, if your premise is "stats prove how good a player is" we're already in clown territory. Cherry pick whichever ones make you feel good.

Look, UGA fans seem to be they only ones who don't get this and are unsatisfied with just having a winning game manager QB. It's weird.
This post was edited on 8/3/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39311 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:12 pm to
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Passer rating is one of the most widely flawed & mocked stats in all of sports. It's effectively a YPA rating.


People say this but then have nothing when asked how else to compare, which really hurts their point.

A flawed stat is still better than whatever nothing you are using.

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we're already in clown territory.


Your Aggie take. So embarrassing you refuse to acknowledge it.
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