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re: Spurrier or Saban?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:10 am to Monticello
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:10 am to Monticello
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I would argue no single game meant more to the SEC than Meyer's dominating 41-14 win over OSU in the 06 title game. It completely changed the perception of the league when people saw a team that looked boring and only above average all season dominate a heavy favorite like that. They saw the clear difference in talent level in the trenches and made people realize that the defensive lines of the SEC could neutralize the skill position talent of any other league.
I would argue that the most important game for the SEC was the 93 Sugar Bowl or the 04 Sugar Bowl. Point is, all of these major bowl victories and NCGs were important in cementing the SEC as a dominant conference that plays great D
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:14 am to MontyFranklyn
No one gave us a chance in hell in that game though. Ohio St had an average margin of victory of over 26 ppg, and that was supposedly their "best team ever."
Plus we didn't "belong" there, since everyone wanted the rematch with Michigan.
Plus we didn't "belong" there, since everyone wanted the rematch with Michigan.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:52 am to USMC Gators
I'd go with Spurrier, he changed the way the entire league played ball. Saban has actually taken it back to a run heavy style of play, away from where the league and the rest of college is going, but it works for him.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:00 am to rangers911
Saban's offense is actually balanced. Other than Texas and Florida, what teams have won the title in the past 20 years that run a spread?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:02 am to USMC Gators
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No one gave us a chance in hell in that game though.
You're right, noone gave UF a chance because OSU was a great team but noone gave us a chance against UM either. Both games were great to watch and great to see the "experts" eat alot of crow.
ETA: This is a tough question because Saban made LSU a national powerhouse and Spurrier got UF back to winning after some tough NCAA sanctions. I would probably lean towards Spurrier for what he's been able to do at USCe (taking them to Atl is no easy task) but it could go either way IMO.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:05 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:06 am to MontyFranklyn
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Other than Texas and Florida, what teams have won the title in the past 20 years that run a spread?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:08 am to joeyb147
lol, forgot about those guys 
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:10 am to mwlewis
Spurrier, because he's the first coach to win big at Florida and turn them into a real national power. I hate it, but that's never going away now.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:14 am to MontyFranklyn
Quick question. We know Saban established pipelines and layed a foundation for LSU that is continued today. When Spurrier leaves USCe will they continue their marginal success?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:16 am to rolltide1283
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You're right, noone gave UF a chance because OSU was a great team but noone gave us a chance against UM either. Both games were great to watch and great to see the "experts" eat alot of crow.
ETA: This is a tough question because Saban made LSU a national powerhouse and Spurrier got UF back to winning after some tough NCAA sanctions. I would probably lean towards Spurrier for what he's been able to do at USCe (taking them to Atl is no easy task) but it could go either way IMO.
lol there wasn't really much to get back too, we never really won anything before Spurrier.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:18 am to MontyFranklyn
I would like to point out that Spurrier only benefited from the BCS formula from 1998 on. The BCS has been a huge boon to SEC teams. One has to wonder what his resume' would look like had the BCS been implemented for the entirety of his prime.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:20 am to therick711
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I would like to point out that Spurrier only benefited from the BCS formula from 1998 on. The BCS has been a huge boon to SEC teams. One has to wonder what his resume' would look like had the BCS been implemented for the entirety of his prime.
In all honesty, it may well have hurt more than it helped. They don't win the national title in 1996, and I don't think they would have been in the title game in any other year.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:22 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:21 am to MontyFranklyn
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Saban's offense is actually balanced. Other than Texas and Florida, what teams have won the title in the past 20 years that run a spread?
You are basically asking, "other than the teams that ran the spread and won a national title, who ran a spread and won the national title."
By the way, your answer is Oklahoma.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:23 am to MontyFranklyn
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Saban's offense is actually balanced. Other than Texas and Florida, what teams have won the title in the past 20 years that run a spread?
Spurrier was far more balanced than you're giving him credit for being.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:23 am to ohiovol
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In all honesty, it may well have hurt more than it helped. They don't win the national title in 1996, and I don't think they would have been in the title game in any other year.
I just checked to see if it was possible for them to get another shot at UT-k in 1998 (as I remember the game was super close), but they also lost to FSU that year. Also, they aren't named "Alabama."
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:25 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:26 am to therick711
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By the way, your answer is Oklahoma.
If im not mistaken, weren't they running a pro-style offense back then?
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:30 am to MontyFranklyn
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If im not mistaken, weren't they running a pro-style offense back then?
You are mistaken, unless you think what Mark Mangino/Mike Leach runs is a pro style offense.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 9:31 am
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:35 am to therick711
This isn't really on topic, but Spurrier's dominance in the 90's reminds me how good Florida State and Bobby Bowden really was. It's easy to dismiss it as just the result of playing in a bad conference, but his record against Spurrier is extremely impressive to me. Especially considering the fact that Florida was the only thing keeping Tennessee from dominating during the 90's.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:35 am to USMC Gators
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lol there wasn't really much to get back too, we never really won anything before Spurrier.
Well I probably should've worded it different. UF had some success in the 80s but when Spurrier took over, he had to get UF back on the map since UF just got off sanctions.
What he did at UF was great but I think his biggest accomplishment is making USCe a competitive program.
Posted on 5/16/12 at 9:37 am to therick711
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You are mistaken, unless you think what Mark Mangino/Mike Leach runs is a pro style offense.
To be fair, they have changed a bit over the years. When they won the title, they did throw a lot, but I'm pretty sure they were a lot more effective running in the early 2000's. It almost seems like they've given up on the defense and the running game. Having Mike Stoops back should help with the defense, IMO.
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