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Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:47 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:47 pm to meansonny
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Are you arguing that Coach O is better than Kelly?
Is Kirby a shitty coach because he went 0-2 by an average of 20+ points against a coach that was fired soon after…?
Just trying to keep up.
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:49 pm to RB10
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Are you just making shite up? Richt has 6 seasons in the final top 10 of the AP, not 8.
Not to mention CasualDawginSC is comparing Kelly at CMU/Cincinnati/Notre Dame to Richt at Georgia.
His comparisons are consistently trash.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 1:50 pm to NFLSU
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What was the score of the 2019 SECCG that UGA played, in Atlanta, with a chance to make the CFP?
UGA got crushed by 27 in 2019 in the SECCG.
Smart's performances in "big games" for UGA:
2017 SECCG - won by 21
2017 Playoff - won by 6 in OT
2017 championship - lost by 3 in OT
2018 SECCG - lost by 7.
2018 Sugar - lost by 7.
2019 SECCG - lost by 27.
2019 Sugar - won by 8.
2020 Peach - won by 3.
2021 SECCG - lost by 17.
2021 Playoff - won by 23.
2021 championship - won by 15.
2022 SECCG - won by 20
2022 playoff - won by 1.
2022 championship - won by 58.
Smart is 9-5 in those important games. He lost 2 by more than a single score.
And yes, LSU was the team that handed UGA their worst loss in those games.
Kelly is 1-7 in those important games. All of the losses were by 2+ scores. His one win was CMU over Ohio in the MAC title game.
Any other questions about football history?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:10 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Not to mention CasualDawginSC is comparing Kelly at CMU/Cincinnati/Notre Dame to Richt at Georgia.
Lol.
I LOVE the fact that you see UGA as such a juggernaut now that it somehow is easier to get results there than it is at Notre Dame.
I wish that were the reality for Mark Richt's tenure. But it's simply not accurate.
When Richt arrived in 2001 in Athens, UGA hadn't won a national title in 21 years (compared to 22 for ND when Kelly arrived). UGA hadn't finished a season in the top 5 since 1983 (18 seasons) and hadn't finished ranked in the single digits since 1992 (9 seasons). ND was 5 seasons removed form a single digit ranking and 17 from a top 5.
UGA was also playing regular season games during his tenure in a conference that had coaches like Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer and Phil Fulmer... all national championship winning head coaches.
Kelly missed the Pete Carrol years at USC. He didn't have much in the way of elite coaches in his regular season matchups. A bit of Dabo at the end of his stay at ND.
I know this may be hard for you to realize... but UGA in 2001 was at best equal in terms of program strength to Notre Dame. ND also had an easier path to getting wins.
The reason they were viewed as superior to ND at the time Kelly came to ND was BECAUSE of Richt's performance, not because of what UGA was better at the start.
But hey, if you want to believe that UGA has been way above ND that whole time, I'll take it. It's not accurate, but it makes UGA seem superior to what they actually were. But reality shows that UGA was viewed as an elite job when Richt left, but was viewed as an average job when he came in.
Kelly really didn't change the perception of ND during his stay.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:12 pm to DawginSC
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Kelly really didn't change the perception of ND during his stay.
Hahahaha do you need a new shovel?
Holy shite man, show us on the doll where Brian Kelly touched you.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:14 pm to NFLSU
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Is Kirby a shitty coach because he went 0-2 by an average of 20+ points against a coach that was fired soon after…?
Nope.
But if he were 2-11 in his 13 BCS/NY6/CCG/Playoff matchups instead of the 8-5 he actually is, he wouldn't be in the top 20 of coach rankings. We probably wouldn't call him any better than "solid" as a coach.
And Kelly is 1-7 in those games in his career.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:17 pm to NFLSU
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Hahahaha do you need a new shovel?
Holy shite man, show us on the doll where Brian Kelly touched you.
What's funny is you think I have a problem with a coach I've described as "solid" and "somewhere in the 8-15 range of coaches currently"... just because I don't think he's elite.
I'm sorry it hurts your feelings for a UGA fan to say your coach is not elite.
But... he's not. He's solid. I wonder what you'd think when I talk about a coach that I believe is actually bad (such as Florida's moron).
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:18 pm to DawginSC
Spend your entire Friday trying to convince everybody that Brian Kelly isn’t a top 5 coach when any reputable media member would quickly disagree.
Maybe even your entire weekend!
Maybe even your entire weekend!
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:25 pm to DawginSC
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What's funny is you think I have a problem with a coach I've described as "solid" and "somewhere in the 8-15 range of coaches currently"... just because I don't think he's elite.
For me it isn't the fact that you think he falls in the 8-15 range, that's fine, it's a free country.
It's that all of your arguments and comparisons in favor of that statement are complete trash.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:30 pm to NFLSU
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Spend your entire Friday trying to convince everybody that Brian Kelly isn’t a top 5 coach when any reputable media member would quickly disagree.
This also is inaccurate, as few media rankings have him in the top 5. 6th seems to be where he mostly tops out.
I'm simply pointing out that even 6th is a few places too high, then reacting to pearl clutching from LSU fans about that statement.
You also seem confused how much time it takes to write and read posts on a message board. I don't think I've spend more than an hour on this message board as a whole today. These are things I do between meetings and when I'm waiting for code to compile. But it has been spread out over much of the day, so I can see how someone easily confused might not understand. Maybe it does in fact take you that long to craft a message board response or read text on a computer screen. If so... that sucks.
And yeah, I'll probably read and post every now and then over the weekend too when I'm not doing anything else. These kind of places are great time wasters.
But feel free to continue an ad hominem response when facts and data fail you. You may think that is somehow a "win" for you, but all it really does is show you don't have an actual argument.
Enjoy your win.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It's that all of your arguments and comparisons in favor of that statement are complete trash.
Okay. You haven't actually tried to pick holes in the facts, you just call them "trash".
I get that you feel that way, but if you're unable to enumerate why the evidence presented against you is wrong, you're not really making a case. You just make it look like you are giving up and resorting to name calling.
Which you are absolutely allowed to do. It is perfectly fine for you to call me a "big stupid poopy head" because you can't actually argue a point. Have at it.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:43 pm to DawginSC
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Okay. You haven't actually tried to pick holes in the facts, you just call them "trash".
I get that you feel that way, but if you're unable to enumerate why the evidence presented against you is wrong, you're not really making a case. You just make it look like you are giving up and resorting to name calling.
I've refuted many of the "points" you've attempted to make here, however you're unable to understand even simple issues or make equivalent comparisons.
At the end of the day, your arguments basically come down to the fact that you haven't seen Kelly win a "big game" therefore it can't happen.
And that's fine, Kelly seems to have rubbed you the wrong way for whatever reason as evidenced by some of the reaches you've made in this thread.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:45 pm to SidewalkTiger
By some of the posters ITT Ed Orgeron is a better coach than Kelly.
Which is amusing.
Which is amusing.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:46 pm to SidewalkTiger
The simple fact is, the SEC Rant would never accept the fact that an elite coach would want to come to LSU.
If it would’ve been Lincoln Riley, we’d be hearing all of the shite about him getting blown out by SEC teams and he’d be nowhere near as good as Brian Kelly
If it would’ve been Lincoln Riley, we’d be hearing all of the shite about him getting blown out by SEC teams and he’d be nowhere near as good as Brian Kelly
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:50 pm to NFLSU
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Just trying to keep up.
Keep up?
It looks like the typical knee jerk deflection from tiger fans.
I've never seen so much love for a coach who supposedly torpedoed your program and got fired.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:51 pm to RB10
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By some of the posters ITT Ed Orgeron is a better coach than Kelly.
Which is amusing.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:52 pm to meansonny
Oh, look, a shite for brains UGA fan!
…..
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:53 pm to NFLSU
It's LSU fans who always enter Coach O in a discussion which has absolutely nothing to do with Coach O.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:54 pm to FooManChoo
quote:he’s been to the CFP multiple times. That alone puts him in an exclusive category.
Not bashing Kelly, but 6 seems high for what he's accomplished.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 2:54 pm to NFLSU
I've got no beef with Kelly in the ranking.
He is a great coach.
I only take exception to the claim that he is some great tactician.
He's everything you want in your CEO. But that's just fluff
He is a great coach.
I only take exception to the claim that he is some great tactician.
He's everything you want in your CEO. But that's just fluff
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