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Sorry USC...NCAA Says You & Auburn Nothing Alike
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:40 am
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:40 am
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“In the Reggie Bush case, when the parent [did] something inappropriate the kid and the school suffered,” Haden said. USC is scheduled to appear before the NCAA’s Infractions Appeals Committee next month. Haden said school attorneys would probably review the Newton case.
“Intuitively, it seems appropriate that we would discuss it,” he said.
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Linebacker Chris Galippo was among the few Trojans who gave their opinion about the Auburn scandal.
“So u can relate Todd Mcnair to an agent through a photograph, but you can’t relate Cam Newton to his Dad? That makes sense…” Galippo tweeted after practice.
Galippo referred to Todd McNair, the former USC running backs coach whose culpability was at the center of the NCAA’s rationale for its heavy ruling against the Trojans amid extra benefits given to Heisman Trophy-winning tailback Reggie Bush by two aspiring sports marketers.
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The NCAA also took issue with comparisons made to the case involving Reggie Bush at Southern California, which was heavily punished for extra benefits received by the Heisman Trophy winner from two aspiring sports marketers.
The NCAA said "If a student-athlete does not receive tangible benefits, that is a different situation from a student-athlete or family member who receives cash, housing or other benefits or knowingly competes and is compensated as a professional athlete."
I would not get my hopes up too high about that appeal coming up.
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:43 am to GABlueDog
They should both get hammered with what they did, its litterally the ncaa's biggest job to keep this stuff from happening. These are supposed to be student athletes not pro's waitin on the nfl.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:45 am to GABlueDog
The report on USC by the NCAA infractions committee is actually highly entertaining. USC had MASSIVE problems in their administration, especially with regards to compliance and oversight. Keep in mind that it wasn't just a football issue... there were major problems with basketball (OJ Mayo), and womens' tennis. The place was one big circus. To make matters worse, USC behaved like a 4 year old with their hand in the cookie jar. The NCAA came very close to banning them from tv.
They have a lot of gall criticizing anything.
They have a lot of gall criticizing anything.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:45 am to MikeyFL
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womens' tennis
you can't be serious about them cheating in womens tennis can you?
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:47 am to GABlueDog
THe only thing Auburn is guilty of is knowingly playing an ineligible player that did not receive money to anyones knowledge; Bush's family did. My beef with this is he was ineligible from the moment his Dad asked for money whetherit changed hands or not; that is the rule. The only punishment Auburn should receive to date is forfieture(sp) of wins that is all. I will not say anyone received money until there is proof and had remained relativy uninvolved in the discussions until someone posted the sec rules that Slive and Auburn ignored.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:51 am to oklahogjr
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you can't be serious about them cheating in womens tennis can you?
Like I said, it was pretty entertaining! If memory serves, they lost their only Pac-10 title too... Bummer.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 3:53 am to MikeyFL
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Like I said, it was pretty entertaining! If memory serves, they lost their only Pac-10 title too... Bummer.
thats a commitment to cheating like i've never seen before. where can i read the report at?
Posted on 12/3/10 at 4:02 am to oklahogjr
Here ya go, with a rather funny, dramatic quote from the introduction:
This case is a window onto a landscape of elite college athletes and certain individuals
close to them who, in the course of their relationships, disregard NCAA rules and
regulations.
Keep in mind, though, that it's 67 pages, and my idea of "fun" tends to be different from many people
This case is a window onto a landscape of elite college athletes and certain individuals
close to them who, in the course of their relationships, disregard NCAA rules and
regulations.
Keep in mind, though, that it's 67 pages, and my idea of "fun" tends to be different from many people
Posted on 12/3/10 at 4:04 am to MikeyFL
Thats a hell of a report, looks like they took their time to get every little fact, i just started on it and am only skimming at the moment though.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 5:32 am to labamafan
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THe only thing Auburn is guilty of is knowingly playing an ineligible player that did not receive money to anyones knowledge; Bush's family did. My beef with this is he was ineligible from the moment his Dad asked for money whetherit changed hands or not; that is the rule. The only punishment Auburn should receive to date is forfieture(sp) of wins that is all. I will not say anyone received money until there is proof and had remained relativy uninvolved in the discussions until someone posted the sec rules that Slive and Auburn ignored.
^This.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 6:26 am to MikeyFL
It really galls me to be defending the University of Spoiled Children, but I think Pat Haden's point is not that they would expect to get off scot-free for what his predecessor's administration did, but rather their consternation that the only penalty imposed on a player whose father committed a serious infraction was a one-day suspension. SC's pending appeal is aimed at reducing their penalty, not eliminating it entirely. Bear in mind that one of the key issues in their appeal is their argument that Bush's ineligibility should only apply to the 2005 season, not their MNC 2004 season.
Having said all that, I do agree that the NCAA dropped a house on Southern Cal because of their arrogance -- Auburn has clearly orchestrated a far more clever and polished show of constructive engagement with the NCAA, as opposed to the widely publicized reports of USC's steadfast denial of any wrongdoing. In other words, the "dumb" country cousins outsmarted the "smart" city slickers again.
Having said all that, I do agree that the NCAA dropped a house on Southern Cal because of their arrogance -- Auburn has clearly orchestrated a far more clever and polished show of constructive engagement with the NCAA, as opposed to the widely publicized reports of USC's steadfast denial of any wrongdoing. In other words, the "dumb" country cousins outsmarted the "smart" city slickers again.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 1:04 pm to HenryFTP
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Having said all that, I do agree that the NCAA dropped a house on Southern Cal because of their arrogance -- Auburn has clearly orchestrated a far more clever and polished show of constructive engagement with the NCAA, as opposed to the widely publicized reports of USC's steadfast denial of any wrongdoing. In other words, the "dumb" country cousins outsmarted the "smart" city slickers again.
Imagine that.
Posted on 12/3/10 at 1:25 pm to GABlueDog
Go along to get along.
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