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So Another LSU Question: LOIC?
Posted on 12/9/20 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 12/9/20 at 9:56 pm
Seems obvious.
With the Will Waders stuff and the Eddie Ogre stuff combined, what does everyone think is actually going to happen to LSU athletics? Serious question.
Are we about to see a death penalty scenario? Maybe for the entire athletics department?
I know people like to throw that around around here a lot as a joke, but if I'm being serious, something like this may actually need to be done.
Did y'all know that Louisiana is one of the most corrupt states in the country? That isn't a knock on your average Louisiana citizen, it's just a fact. If we look at what is going on with LSU athletics, something needs to happen. And something major.
Guys, you can't frickin do shite like this and expect to just get away with it. I've been saying this for years. If something isn't done about shite like this it could literally tear the entire conference apart. We Arkansas fans have already seen it first hand.
You cannot have a literal "ride or die" attitude and expect to get away with it indefinitely.
Something needs to be done. I want folks opinions on what that will be. I say death penalty, and I'm not saying this to be mean. I think it is appropriate.
With the Will Waders stuff and the Eddie Ogre stuff combined, what does everyone think is actually going to happen to LSU athletics? Serious question.
Are we about to see a death penalty scenario? Maybe for the entire athletics department?
I know people like to throw that around around here a lot as a joke, but if I'm being serious, something like this may actually need to be done.
Did y'all know that Louisiana is one of the most corrupt states in the country? That isn't a knock on your average Louisiana citizen, it's just a fact. If we look at what is going on with LSU athletics, something needs to happen. And something major.
Guys, you can't frickin do shite like this and expect to just get away with it. I've been saying this for years. If something isn't done about shite like this it could literally tear the entire conference apart. We Arkansas fans have already seen it first hand.
You cannot have a literal "ride or die" attitude and expect to get away with it indefinitely.
Something needs to be done. I want folks opinions on what that will be. I say death penalty, and I'm not saying this to be mean. I think it is appropriate.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 9:58 pm
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 9:57 pm to BoarEd
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LOI?
Letter of Intent?
Posted on 12/9/20 at 9:57 pm to TidenUP
Sorry. LOIC
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:04 pm to BoarEd
Sources within the athletic dept are bracing for the worst.
Sources are indicating the likely punishment for football will be vacation of wins, 30 scholarships over 3 years and a 2 year post season ban. Similar to USC.
Sources are indicating the likely punishment for football will be vacation of wins, 30 scholarships over 3 years and a 2 year post season ban. Similar to USC.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:05 pm to secuniversity
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Sources within the athletic dept are bracing for the worst.
Sources are indicating the likely punishment for football will be vacation of wins, 30 scholarships over 3 years and a 2 year post season ban. Similar to USC.
Sounds to me like they're actually hoping for the best. This stuff is half a light year beyond what happened with USC.
Speaking of USC. Wasn't Eddie O mixed up with that shite too?
How many different schools has this dude been mixed up with that ended up being exposed as corrupt?
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:07 pm to secuniversity
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Sources are indicating the likely punishment for football will be vacation of wins, 30 scholarships over 3 years and a 2 year post season ban. Similar to USC.
What exactly is football being punished for?
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:10 pm to BoarEd
I’m saying 15 scholarships over 3-5 years and a two year bowl ban and three if they try to count this year.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:12 pm to secuniversity
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Sources within the athletic dept are bracing for the worst.
Sources are indicating the likely punishment for football will be vacation of wins, 30 scholarships over 3 years and a 2 year post season ban. Similar to USC.
For the OLOL stuff? Seems harsh unless there's a lot more to come out.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:13 pm to GerryDiNardo
Even then it wouldn't vacate the national title which seems to keep being repeated around here.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:14 pm to GerryDiNardo
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For the OLOL stuff? Seems harsh unless there's a lot more to come out.
Dude is trolling. He doesn’t know shite
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:22 pm to BoarEd
No death penalty - definitely LOIC.
The NCAA can’t continue to seem weak when it comes to Title IX issues if it wants to survive in the modern era. They know this, and LSU will probably be their precedent-setting case where they leverage it in a LOIC charge and decision, rather than use it directly as an infraction.
The NCAA can’t continue to seem weak when it comes to Title IX issues if it wants to survive in the modern era. They know this, and LSU will probably be their precedent-setting case where they leverage it in a LOIC charge and decision, rather than use it directly as an infraction.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:24 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What exactly is football being punished for?
LOIC is against the entire AD, so any program with infractions (even small) can theoretically feel the wrath of the NCAA.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:26 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Its complete bullshite how these punishments work.
You have an office that didnt properly investigate allegations (allegedly) and some tennis coaches who didn't report allegations (allegedly) so they'll punish a bunch of football players and coaches who had nothing to do with anything.
Same with the OLOL case which had nothing to do with LSU at all.
The USC thing was bullshite and most of the other punishments handed down have been too, the NCAA is a joke.
You have an office that didnt properly investigate allegations (allegedly) and some tennis coaches who didn't report allegations (allegedly) so they'll punish a bunch of football players and coaches who had nothing to do with anything.
Same with the OLOL case which had nothing to do with LSU at all.
The USC thing was bullshite and most of the other punishments handed down have been too, the NCAA is a joke.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:28 pm to BoarEd
We're worse than Arkansas! How much worse can it get? 
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:31 pm to TigerLunatik
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Even then it wouldn't vacate the national title which seems to keep being repeated around here.
I agree. The title is not involved here. The guy from OLOL will be considered a booster and that won't be good for the football program.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:33 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Same with the OLOL case which had nothing to do with LSU at all.
Honestly, you can't claim that. A football player's parent got money from that. That's where a wannabe booster fricks up a program.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:44 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Its complete bullshite how these punishments work.
I will say it’s bullshite how some programs walk when they have major issues. Lawsuits over technicalities (Penn State, NC) should result in suspension from the NCAA.
The NCAA rules themselves are completely reasonable (outside of the fact that ‘amateurism’ is bullshite).
In LSU’s case, LOIC is when multiple programs have concurrent issues:
Basketball has Wade-gate.
Football has a few infractions.
Those 2 are enough for you to be concerned.
The Title IX is what really makes the case for LOIC though. You said it yourself:
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You have an office that didnt properly investigate allegations
That key word pretty much directly meets the definition for LOIC. It’s not a coach. It’s not some boosters. It’s an office of the institution.
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The USC thing was bullshite and most of the other punishments handed down have been too, the NCAA is a joke.
No one to blame but yourself for being in denial. We all tried to tell you there would be consequences for this stuff.
It happens. I don’t know why the current admin was so dumb to sit on this stuff and let it all blow up in their face at once. That’s what’s going to kill LSU.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 10:47 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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No one to blame but yourself for being in denial. We all tried to tell you there would be consequences for this stuff.
When have I been in denial?
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It happens. I don’t know why the current admin was so dumb to sit on this stuff and let it all blow up in their face at once. That’s what’s going to kill LSU.
They haven't been really, the only new information thats came out was the Guice thing.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:19 pm to TidenUP
I think LSU gets hit somewhat for the OLOL stuff, but not directly. The Funes stuff is bad and the fact that the place he was stealing from is a hospital is absolutely abhorrent. It also doesn't help LSU that the person he was using to funnel the money is a former player's father is not exactly ideal, but I don't know how much of an NCAA issue it is and how much of a criminal issue it is.
Between those issues with football, the basketball allegations, and the tennis coaches doing who the frick knows, a LOIC charge is certainly within the realm of possibility. I think LSU gets by with just under that, something like a year or 2 postseason ban and 15 scholarships over 3 years for football. I'm not as in the know on basketball sanctions, so maybe what Tennessee got when Pearl lied to the NCAA.
Between those issues with football, the basketball allegations, and the tennis coaches doing who the frick knows, a LOIC charge is certainly within the realm of possibility. I think LSU gets by with just under that, something like a year or 2 postseason ban and 15 scholarships over 3 years for football. I'm not as in the know on basketball sanctions, so maybe what Tennessee got when Pearl lied to the NCAA.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:21 pm to BoarEd
The dirtiest AD in the country. They deserve whatever fresh hell awaits them
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