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re: So according to ProFootballFocus...

Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:28 pm to
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11th best anything in the NFL is dam good..


Yep. Kinda like being 11th best in the world.
Not too shabby.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:30 pm to
What facts and stats are you referring to?

Look at the facts and stats. Alabama players are performing better in the NFL than anyone else's players in the league. That's a tough pill to swallow around here because that bullshite has been spewed for so long that it's taken as fact now.

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Eddie Lacy +20.3, #3 RB
Julio Jones +17.0, #6 WR
Evan Mathis +23.8, #1 LG
Marcell Dareus +25.6, #4 4-3 DT
Rolando McClain +13.9, #3 4-3 ILB
Dont'a Hightower +27.1, #1 3-4 ILB
CJ Mosley +12.8, #6 3-4 ILB
Kareem Jackson +10.0, #11 CB


Please enlighten me on a team that has more guys than that playing at that high of a level.

PFF is great because it grades every play. It grades a back when he isn't carrying the ball and it grades a WR when it's not thrown his way. PFF will tell you who the all around best players at their position are. Alabama just happens to produce a lot of these guys.

This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Arab21
Member since Jun 2014
397 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:34 pm to
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Eddie Lacy +20.3, #3 RB
Julio Jones +17.0, #6 WR
Evan Mathis +23.8, #1 LG
Marcell Dareus +25.6, #4 4-3 DT
Rolando McClain +13.9, #3 4-3 ILB
Dont'a Hightower +27.1, #1 3-4 ILB
CJ Mosley +12.8, #6 3-4 ILB
Kareem Jackson +10.0, #11 CB


Hill > Lacy
Odell >or= Julio
Jarvis=beast on shitty team
whitworth is top 5 LT in the league
yall have us beat on LB
Peterson lightyears ahead of Kareem
Mett > than any qb yall have.

Thats just naming some. Congrats on solid LBs
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:36 pm to
Solid analysis. I think I'll stick to the actual grades and not a homers opinion.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
4004 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:37 pm to
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What facts and stats are you referring to? Look at the facts and stats. Alabama players are performing better in the NFL than anyone else's players in the league. That's a tough pill to swallow around here because that bullshite has been spewed for so long that it's taken as fact now:

Eddie Lacy +20.3, #3 RB
Julio Jones +17.0, #6 WR
Evan Mathis +23.8, #1 LG
Marcell Dareus +25.6, #4 4-3 DT
Rolando McClain +13.9, #3 4-3 ILB
Dont'a Hightower +27.1, #1 3-4 ILB
CJ Mosley +12.8, #6 3-4 ILB
Kareem Jackson +10.0, #11 CB


You're ruining the potential for off-season threads with these pesky little facts.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40385 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:37 pm to
Blue > Richardson
Ridley > Ingram

Second one shouldn't be news. Ridley has been better than Ingram since 2010.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:38 pm to
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When the Texans selected Kareem Jackson in the first round, they probably expected a little more than him being the 11th best cornerback in his very best year This post was edited on 12/30 at 1:09 pm


You're embarrassing
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92691 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Eddie Lacy +20.3, #3 RB
Julio Jones +17.0, #6 WR
Evan Mathis +23.8, #1 LG
Marcell Dareus +25.6, #4 4-3 DT
Rolando McClain +13.9, #3 4-3 ILB
Dont'a Hightower +27.1, #1 3-4 ILB
CJ Mosley +12.8, #6 3-4 ILB
Kareem Jackson +10.0, #11 CB
I don't think anyone in their right mind has called any of these guys busts (except for Rolando McClain)...

Glen Coffee? Trent Richardson (sucks)? Mark Ingram (had a pretty good season but has been awful every other year)? Dre Kirkpatrick (up until the last couple games)? Terrence Cody (still fat)? Courtney Upshaw? Cyrus Kouandjio? Chance Warmack (awful as a rookie)? Mark Barron (traded by the team that drafted him)? Javy Arenas? These have all either underwhelmed, not lived up to draft position or been busts.

IMO, the following have been solid to great picks: CJ Moseley, Haha Clinton Dix, Dee Milliner, DJ Fluker, Eddie Lacy, Donta Hightower, Marcell Dareus, Julio Jones, Rolando McClain (at times), Kareem Jackson, Andre Smith, James Carpenter and Rashaad Johnson.

I didn't go into players drafted like AJ McCarron, Quentin Dial, Barrett Jones, Jessie Williams, Vinnie Sunseri, Jeoffrey Pagen, Kevin Norwood, Ed Stinson, etc... They weren't drafted all that high, hard to be a huge bust.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm to
Well Wade I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Ingram finished in the top 10 in rushing this year. Richardson came in at 40th. He's a bust

Having said that, Richardson averaged more ypg and more ypc than Alfred Blue, in addition to more touchdowns. Let's try to use facts in this thread and not opinions. As bad as Richardson is, Blue managed to be worse.
Posted by Arab21
Member since Jun 2014
397 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm to
milliner sucks.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
22050 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Hill > Lacy 


You dumb as shite. Fact.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37322 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:47 pm to
Kareem took quite a while to come around, but has become a good corner.

McClain has resurrected his career, but Oak would consider him a bust.
Posted by Arab21
Member since Jun 2014
397 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Having said that, Richardson averaged more ypg and more ypc than Alfred Blue, in addition to more touchdowns. Let's try to use facts in this thread and not opinions. As bad as Richardson is, Blue managed to be worse.


Blue played for a team that cant throw. richardson sucked arse with a prolific passing game
Posted by John Gotti
Vestavia HIlls, AL
Member since Jul 2013
3497 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:48 pm to
Hill > Lacy NO
Odell >/= Julio
Jarvis: gratz on being fastest at the Special Olympics

Julio would have definitely put up more than 10 catches, 189 yards and a touchdown against Kareem...so I guess Peterson is better than him
Posted by unbanmepls
FQ
Member since Dec 2014
734 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:49 pm to
Insecure U
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39612 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:49 pm to
Upshaw has been a force in Baltimore since day 1, ask a Ravens fan about Upshaw. It's a pretty simple concept that if you have more high picks you're going to have more "busts" ( but lol for considering 1st and 2nd year guys busts)

That doesn't change the fact that Alabama has more guys playing at a high level in the league than anyone else though, does it?
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18503 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:50 pm to
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Someone called Hightower a bust?

LOL


Posted by Arab21
Member since Jun 2014
397 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Hill > Lacy NO
Odell >/= Julio
Jarvis: gratz on being fastest at the Special Olympics

Julio would have definitely put up more than 10 catches, 189 yards and a touchdown against Kareem...so I guess Peterson is better than him


Hill is better than lacy. just watch them play.
Until Odell gets stopped/slowed down by someone, he is up there with Julio. hence the > or =
And people act like all of Julio's yards and catches came directly on Peterson. Some peoples knowledge of football is laughable.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:53 pm to
So you're basing that on a hypothetical what if, and not the facts in front of your face. Solid.

Seattle can't throw the ball either. Didn't stop Lynch. Minnesota hasn't been able to throw the ball in a decade. Hasn't stopped Peterson. Kansas City, San Fransicso. Same story. It hurts doesn't it, that Alabama is better at NFL too.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39612 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:54 pm to
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And people act like all of Julio's yards and catches came directly on Peterson


You didn't watch that game, did you?
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