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re: Smart, Kelly top two coaches in the country

Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:58 pm to
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That’s demonstrably false.

Kelly has won 2 as HC. He also has a .741 win pct at LSU.

How ‘bout Napier? No nattys as HC and .440 at Flarta. OUCH!


oh my god we're not talking about G5 conference championships here

but if you really wanted to, you should know that Napier won 2 conference championships, too. Thus, equals in all regards.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
2098 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:58 pm to
Why state CFP games played? Thats no great accomplishment.

Should only highlight CFP games won.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Crazy thing is half of the Ohio State fanbase wants Day fired.


It's the times we're living in. A lot of money being paid and he can't beat Michigan.

Here's the thing with Kelly, Dabo and Day.

Day has had the best team the last few years of the three.

Dabo has two titles, but recently they haven't been as good, but it's not like there is some massive chasm between Clemson and LSU since Kelly took over.

I understand some here saying it's "who would you want right now?", but if I was using that as my reasoning I'd rank Lanning no. 2. Think best does mean you have to look at overall resume combined with success the past three years or so.
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
4799 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:59 pm to
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None of those takes were terrible before last season.


Saban at anything except 1 was laughable... even after Kirby 21 and 22.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13234 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:59 pm to
Day wouldn't be the first coach hated for not winning the big one(s) despite winning the rest.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13234 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Saban at anything except 1 was laughable


Yeah, ranking him behind the coach that had just won two national titles was "laughable."
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:04 pm to
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Day wouldn't be the first coach hated for not winning the big one(s) despite winning the rest.


He's gotten to the playoff three times. He and Riley are similar, but Riley has fallen. Will be interesting to see what happens if Day wins the B1G but fails to get past the quarterfinals.

If he doesn't win the B1G, he's probably gone. But they'd have little guarantee they could hire someone better.
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
4799 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:05 pm to
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Yeah, ranking him behind the coach that had just won two national titles was "laughable."


I agree. Well said.

His recruiting hadn't slipped, neither had the game production. Yes, ga won the natty in 21, but a month before Alabama had stole their girlfriends and kicked the dog in their own backyard.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13234 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:06 pm to
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I agree. Well said.


The air quotes was me mocking such a dumb take.
Posted by Clemson_all_in1979
Member since Sep 2023
648 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:09 pm to
Top 3 coaches kirby fat kelly,Kalen DeBoer
Posted by Clemson_all_in1979
Member since Sep 2023
648 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:11 pm to
Yeah ok yankee arse kelly
Posted by Clemson_all_in1979
Member since Sep 2023
648 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:12 pm to
You mean 3loss kelly
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
4799 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:14 pm to
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The air quotes was me mocking such a dumb take.


That's obvious, and an opinion. I have mine, you have yours. I'm still laughing at the idiot picking Nick at anything besides 1.
Posted by Clemson_all_in1979
Member since Sep 2023
648 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:14 pm to
I think dabo is a wait and see he has got some players in some coaches now let's see what he can do
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61686 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:17 pm to
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Day wouldn't be the first coach hated for not winning the big one(s) despite winning the rest.


It's a dumb criticism.

Ohio State was a missed field goal from playing for, and likely winning a natty in 2022.

Just because the kicker missed the field goal doesn't make him a better or worse coach.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
11141 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:20 pm to
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Saban at anything except 1 was laughable... even after Kirby 21 and 22.


Not laughable if you are considering age and the possibility of not having him the next year...which proved to be right.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17050 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Why state CFP games played? Thats no great accomplishment. Should only highlight CFP games won.

Making the CFP is a major accomplishment in the four team era. It’s roughly equivalent to a final four in basketball.

If you want to just view NCG appearances as a CFP win, same thing different label.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42063 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:28 pm to
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has won as many championships as Brian Kelly




Along with every coach in the top 10 not named Kirby and Dabo...so what point are you trying to make in this thread? Should we expand it to Top 50 coaches so you may be able to see Sun Belt Billy on the list?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75557 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Along with every coach in the top 10 not named Kirby and Dabo...so what point are you trying to make in this thread? Should we expand it to Top 50 coaches so you may be able to see Sun Belt Billy on the list?
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Making the CFP is a major accomplishment in the four team era. It’s a final four in basketball.


Hilarious to me how the Bama fans have screamed for years that LSU's multiple Final Four trips are meaningless. Now that DeBoer is at Bama, a trip to the CFP is equivalent to the a prestigious Final Four.


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