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re: Smael Mondon charges DROPPED

Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:54 pm to
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LMAO

!So why didn't he get charged with speeding?
You know exactly why and if they had clear evidence from his phone or OBC I can promise you he would've got charged with it.

If ya don't think LEO's don't overcharge on particular traffic violations you're clueless.


Because he took a plea deal.

If he was innocent and had the evidence you are stating, he does NOT need to take a plea.

If you show the DA evidence that shows your innocent, then the DA is just going to drop the case completely. That isn't what happened, so there is no reason to assume he had any data you are suggesting. And if he did have such data and his lawyer allowed him to take a plea, then he's got a really shitty lawyer.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:57 pm to
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Typically it means the prosecution doesn't have enough evidence to convict so they plea down the charges.



Not in a case like this.

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Or it could mean that the court system is clogged and the charges are not serious enough to pursue anything serious.


Bingo. And for young people it's a way of giving them a 2nd chance.

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Either way, it says legally Mondon is given a ticket and the more serious charges are dropped.

Do you have a different definition?


I have no issue with that, just the idea that a plea means someone was innocent of the original charges.

Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4744 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:57 pm to
all this over a speeding ticket....i get it though...not much to gig UGA football about lately
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3732 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 2:57 pm to
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We all knew it was bs.



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The All-SEC senior did plead guilty to “driving too fast for conditions,” and was required to complete a victim impact class




Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:04 pm to
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all this over a speeding ticket....i get it though...not much to gig UGA football about lately


I don't give a shite about that. You're just another Georgia fan making excuses. The fact that you are doing it over a speeding ticket is what makes you all look so damn ridiculous.

I've never once suggested a player should be suspended, kicked off a team or any of the shite you are assuming for your own comfort. In fact, I think all of that is stupid and mostly just PR shite, as if the only real forms of punishment are public forms, and as if it's always the football programs place to do the punishing when we have a justice system specifically for said things.

So find another fantasy.

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60675 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Not in a case like this.


So, you know all the ins and outs of this case?

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Bingo. And for young people it's a way of giving them a 2nd chance.


Or maybe they just felt it wasn't serious enough to pursue. Y'all seem to think it more serious than the court system did.

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I have no issue with that, just the idea that a plea means someone was innocent of the original charges.


He might have been. I don't know. I do know that apparently the courts felt it was not worth pursuing, so of course the Rant is going to?

My next question is, why do you and the other posters find this so horrifying if the courts do not?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24856 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:10 pm to
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I have no issue with that, just the idea that a plea means someone was innocent of the original charges.

People are innocent until proven guilty. He wasn’t proven guilty of reckless driving. If it was a slam dunk either way he wouldn’t be given a plea bargain and have accepted it. Both were mitigating their risk of losing the original case by signing the plea bargain.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:13 pm to
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So, you know all the ins and outs of this case?


It's the type of case that indicates it.

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Or maybe they just felt it wasn't serious enough to pursue. Y'all seem to think it more serious than the court system did.


I just know how these things work from experience. I never said it was serious, I said a plea is not an indication of innocence.

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He might have been. I don't know. I do know that apparently the courts felt it was not worth pursuing, so of course the Rant is going to?


Well a plea is not evidence of it. The only thing I'm pursing are dumb Georgia fans making bullshite excuses/claims.

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My next question is, why do you and the other posters find this so horrifying if the courts do not?


Could not give less of a shite about the actual case or person.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14160 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:15 pm to
Mind your own business, your Saviour took a transfer of a known woman beater then let him beat another woman.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Mind your own business, your Saviour took a transfer of a known woman beater then let him beat another woman.


I don't give a shite. We have a justice system to deal with these things, if there is an issue of someone not getting the proper punishments they deserve, it should be something that applies to everyone and should be handled by the justice system, not just football players on a football team.

So take it up with the justice system and stop trying to use whataboutisms to avoid real debate.

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14160 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 3:28 pm to
We don't give a shite what you think about UGA. Justice system is garbage....
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:28 pm to
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We don't give a shite what you think about UGA. Justice system is garbage....


I never said a single word about Georgia or how they've handled it.

That said, I don't believe you.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69050 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:31 pm to
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So they were dropped to what the original charges should have been with a ticket given instead of being arrested. Got it.

Plea bargains. How do they work
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117278 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:41 pm to
Does it ever get tiresome carrying water for some retarded guys that run fast and catch?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42130 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Plea bargains. How do they work

By law enforcement overcharging people so they'll plea bargain down.
Posted by AUBTIG47
Ur mom's room
Member since Mar 2021
411 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 5:00 pm to
That's a really nice story and you tell it so well!
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69050 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 5:54 pm to
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Or it could mean that the court system is clogged and the charges are not serious enough to pursue anything serious.

This is why almost every single misdemeanor is pled out. They do not have the resources to try every case. They’re not going to slam down their iron fists on a traffic offense that didn’t hurt anyone. They’ll offer a reduced charge to get the case done and out of their case load
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69050 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 5:57 pm to
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By law enforcement overcharging people so they'll plea bargain down.

no.

I do misdemeanor defense work on the side as part of my practice. Almost everyone in that court room at docket call is guilty as charged. And almost every one of them agrees to a deal that is pled down to something less serious. It’s called judicial economy
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
3409 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:34 pm to
Headlines should read:

Smael the Crucifier Determined to be Wrongly Accused. Vows that SEC Ouarterbacks Will be Sanctified with a New Move he Calls The Divine Smite.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60675 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 7:43 pm to
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It's the type of case that indicates it.

It was a speeding case. I doubt they put too much brain power into it.

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I just know how these things work from experience. I never said it was serious, I said a plea is not an indication of innocence.

And I never said it was.

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Well a plea is not evidence of it. The only thing I'm pursing are dumb Georgia fans making bullshite excuses/claims.

You mean like Alabama fans who made excuses for a player delivering a gun to another player who then used it to murder someone?
But, of course we will spend all kinds of time and energy over a speeding citation.

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Could not give less of a shite about the actual case or person.

And yet, here you are arguing about it. Tell us how much you don't care.

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