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re: SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Easy fix/ Forget Okie and Tejas, and kick out Faggies and Mizzou
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:33 pm to Tornado Alley
Teams in this proposed division have won 12 national championships since the original expansion.
Five of the eight teams in this division are in the top 18 of the winningest programs of all time (in terms of all time wins). (Bama #2, Tennessee #9, Georgia #11, Auburn #13, Florida #18).
It's ridiculous to even ponder.
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Put Alabama in either division and the numbers are similar if not the same as far as national championships since expansion and all time wins.
Switch Bama with Ole Miss in the proposed divisions and the west would have 11 national championships and historically 5 of the top 16 winningest programs, 6 if you include Arkansas at # 23.
As previously stated by another poster, Bama is an outlier.
Five of the eight teams in this division are in the top 18 of the winningest programs of all time (in terms of all time wins). (Bama #2, Tennessee #9, Georgia #11, Auburn #13, Florida #18).
It's ridiculous to even ponder.
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Put Alabama in either division and the numbers are similar if not the same as far as national championships since expansion and all time wins.
Switch Bama with Ole Miss in the proposed divisions and the west would have 11 national championships and historically 5 of the top 16 winningest programs, 6 if you include Arkansas at # 23.
As previously stated by another poster, Bama is an outlier.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:09 pm to thunderbird1100
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The biggest issue with the 1-7 alignment outside of being just 8 games is you're eliminating some yearly rivalries which wont go over well.
Bingo!
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:16 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
Here's something that they will never consider but would preserve more rivalries than the 1/7 or 3/6 options and still limit the conference schedule to 8 games (a sticking point for the lower tier teams because of bowl eligibility and for Fla/UGA because of their neutral site game plus FSU/GT commitments).
Its the pod system with one permanent opponent and one alternate opponent (for the years when you are playing the pod with your permanent opponent).
Central Pod (permanent, alternate)
Alabama (Auburn, LSU)
Tennessee (Florida, A&M)
Kentucky (Georgia, MSU)
Vanderbilt (USC,Ole Miss)
SE Pod:
Florida (Tennessee, Texas)
Georgia (Kentucky, Oklahoma)
Auburn (Alabama, Arkansas)
USC (Vanderbilt, Missouri)
SW Pod:
LSU (Arkansas, Alabama)
A&M (Texas, Tennessee)
Ole Miss (Oklahoma, Vanderbilt)
MSU (Missouri, Kentucky)
NW Pod:
Texas (A&M, Florida)
Arkansas (LSU, Auburn)
Oklahoma (Ole Miss, Georgia)
Missouri (MSU, USC)
Essentially you have a six year rotation to finish the home and away rotation against every team in the conference at least once.
Year 1&2
Central vs SE with alternate opponent
SW vs NW with alternate opponent
Year 3&4
Central vs SW with permanent opps
SE vs NW with permanent opps
Year 5&6
Central vs NW with permanent
SW vs SE with permanent
I don't love it but its better than the options on the table.
As a LSU fan I despise losing the Florida and Auburn game as permanent opponents.
The strengths of the rivalries retained are obviously the Central vs SE and the alternative games between SW and Central more than NW and anyone because frankly only A&M and Texas have a deep rivalry between NW and SW and there aren't really rivalries between SE and NW even if the matchups are logical.
Its the pod system with one permanent opponent and one alternate opponent (for the years when you are playing the pod with your permanent opponent).
Central Pod (permanent, alternate)
Alabama (Auburn, LSU)
Tennessee (Florida, A&M)
Kentucky (Georgia, MSU)
Vanderbilt (USC,Ole Miss)
SE Pod:
Florida (Tennessee, Texas)
Georgia (Kentucky, Oklahoma)
Auburn (Alabama, Arkansas)
USC (Vanderbilt, Missouri)
SW Pod:
LSU (Arkansas, Alabama)
A&M (Texas, Tennessee)
Ole Miss (Oklahoma, Vanderbilt)
MSU (Missouri, Kentucky)
NW Pod:
Texas (A&M, Florida)
Arkansas (LSU, Auburn)
Oklahoma (Ole Miss, Georgia)
Missouri (MSU, USC)
Essentially you have a six year rotation to finish the home and away rotation against every team in the conference at least once.
Year 1&2
Central vs SE with alternate opponent
SW vs NW with alternate opponent
Year 3&4
Central vs SW with permanent opps
SE vs NW with permanent opps
Year 5&6
Central vs NW with permanent
SW vs SE with permanent
I don't love it but its better than the options on the table.
As a LSU fan I despise losing the Florida and Auburn game as permanent opponents.
The strengths of the rivalries retained are obviously the Central vs SE and the alternative games between SW and Central more than NW and anyone because frankly only A&M and Texas have a deep rivalry between NW and SW and there aren't really rivalries between SE and NW even if the matchups are logical.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 8:35 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:26 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format. by 3rddownonthe8
But why? When a 3-6 gives you 3 teams 4 times and 12 teams 2 times in 4 years.
Because it keeps people's "important" games & DOESN'T NEED tie-breakers to sort teams with the same record. It also easily gives us the SECCG members.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:30 pm to Tornado Alley
Also, 5 of the last 6 added teams would now be in the West (SC stays East).
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:37 pm to rbtgoodson
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SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format. by rbtgoodson
Truthfully, I don't understand the rationale that anyone has against the following:
SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina
SEC North: Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt
SEC South: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M
SEC West: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas
SEC Network A: Content focused on the SEC East and North
SEC Network B: Content focused on the SEC South and West
SEC Semi-Finals: Atlanta and Dallas
SEC Championship: Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, New Orleans
Conference Games: 9 (3 Divisional, 6 Rotational)
Rivalry Games: Eliminated (or having them set somewhere between 1-3)
A - SEC WILL NOT put same-state schools in different groups.
B - Which annual rivalries have you now put every other year?
C - WHY have a playoff to get the SEC champ...who goes into ANOTHER playoff?
I'm sure there's more.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:50 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
I've posted about how the 4 with the ACC opponent & needing 7H/year games have to always host #'s 11 & 12.
4H SEC games
1H ACC game
#11H game
#12H game
5H SEC games
#11H game
#12H game
Therefore, they could NEVER visit anybody's stadium.
4H SEC games
1H ACC game
#11H game
#12H game
5H SEC games
#11H game
#12H game
Therefore, they could NEVER visit anybody's stadium.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:58 pm to molsusports
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As a LSU fan I despise losing the Florida and Auburn game as permanent opponents
That really does suck. Those were THE games when I was at LSU.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:00 pm to molsusports
I like this EXCEPT SEC won't split same-state schools (Ala./Aub., Tn./Vandy, Miss./MSU, TA&M/Tx.) in different groups.
However, it looks like that has to be done for this format.
However, it looks like that has to be done for this format.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:08 pm to anc
I can't see ole miss not playing lsu and ms state and I expect they want Bama or arky.
7 & 1 ain't gonna cut it.
And Aggies have a lot of history with arky and lsu and texass
7 & 1 ain't gonna cut it.
And Aggies have a lot of history with arky and lsu and texass
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 5/27/22 at 2:04 am to anc
quote:for THAT, yeah- we'd take it. Rather have ole Miss or LSU than South Carolina though.
Mizzou, Texas and pick up South Carolina.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 2:05 am
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:07 am to 3down10
The goal is to play every team, every two years. The athletes should have an opportunity to play in every stadium in a four year career.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:35 pm to PanhandleSlim
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One of the 3/6 scenarios has UF getting Oklahoma and South Carolina for the other 2 permanent games. If that’s the case why would we vote for 3/6
Because UF in future has ACC ooc rival game...
Miami and FSU.
While others that voted for 3-6 don't have that
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:36 pm to anc
I think that we’re the most likely. That’s just me spitballing though.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:40 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
Sorry for jumping here late:
Is 4-4 so unappealing that it can’t be done? 1-7 and 3-6 are gonna cut out a lot of traditional matchups that an old fart like me loves.
Is 4-4 so unappealing that it can’t be done? 1-7 and 3-6 are gonna cut out a lot of traditional matchups that an old fart like me loves.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:42 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
I know Kentucky doesn't want more conference games because they've been loudly objecting to that.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:16 pm to PanhandleSlim
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One of the 3/6 scenarios has UF getting Oklahoma and South Carolina for the other 2 permanent games. If that’s the case why would we vote for 3/6
You wouldn't.With FSU and Miami becoming OOC opponents for yall in future it make sense to vote for the 1-7.
No one else in SEC has 2 OOC games like that.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:21 pm to southernboisb
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How do you know that?
In the future they will be adding Miami to non conference.
Make 2 power five OOC rivalries. Why would they vote for 6-3?
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