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re: SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format.

Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Dick Tracy
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2016
721 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:03 pm to
Easy fix/ Forget Okie and Tejas, and kick out Faggies and Mizzou
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4160 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:33 pm to
Teams in this proposed division have won 12 national championships since the original expansion.


Five of the eight teams in this division are in the top 18 of the winningest programs of all time (in terms of all time wins). (Bama #2, Tennessee #9, Georgia #11, Auburn #13, Florida #18).

It's ridiculous to even ponder.
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Put Alabama in either division and the numbers are similar if not the same as far as national championships since expansion and all time wins.

Switch Bama with Ole Miss in the proposed divisions and the west would have 11 national championships and historically 5 of the top 16 winningest programs, 6 if you include Arkansas at # 23.

As previously stated by another poster, Bama is an outlier.

This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 8:45 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9687 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

The biggest issue with the 1-7 alignment outside of being just 8 games is you're eliminating some yearly rivalries which wont go over well.


Bingo!
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37325 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:16 pm to
Here's something that they will never consider but would preserve more rivalries than the 1/7 or 3/6 options and still limit the conference schedule to 8 games (a sticking point for the lower tier teams because of bowl eligibility and for Fla/UGA because of their neutral site game plus FSU/GT commitments).

Its the pod system with one permanent opponent and one alternate opponent (for the years when you are playing the pod with your permanent opponent).

Central Pod (permanent, alternate)
Alabama (Auburn, LSU)
Tennessee (Florida, A&M)
Kentucky (Georgia, MSU)
Vanderbilt (USC,Ole Miss)

SE Pod:
Florida (Tennessee, Texas)
Georgia (Kentucky, Oklahoma)
Auburn (Alabama, Arkansas)
USC (Vanderbilt, Missouri)

SW Pod:
LSU (Arkansas, Alabama)
A&M (Texas, Tennessee)
Ole Miss (Oklahoma, Vanderbilt)
MSU (Missouri, Kentucky)

NW Pod:
Texas (A&M, Florida)
Arkansas (LSU, Auburn)
Oklahoma (Ole Miss, Georgia)
Missouri (MSU, USC)

Essentially you have a six year rotation to finish the home and away rotation against every team in the conference at least once.

Year 1&2
Central vs SE with alternate opponent
SW vs NW with alternate opponent

Year 3&4
Central vs SW with permanent opps
SE vs NW with permanent opps

Year 5&6
Central vs NW with permanent
SW vs SE with permanent

I don't love it but its better than the options on the table.

As a LSU fan I despise losing the Florida and Auburn game as permanent opponents.

The strengths of the rivalries retained are obviously the Central vs SE and the alternative games between SW and Central more than NW and anyone because frankly only A&M and Texas have a deep rivalry between NW and SW and there aren't really rivalries between SE and NW even if the matchups are logical.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:23 pm to
How do you know that?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9687 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format. by 3rddownonthe8
But why? When a 3-6 gives you 3 teams 4 times and 12 teams 2 times in 4 years.


Because it keeps people's "important" games & DOESN'T NEED tie-breakers to sort teams with the same record. It also easily gives us the SECCG members.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9687 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:30 pm to
Also, 5 of the last 6 added teams would now be in the West (SC stays East).
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9687 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:37 pm to
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SI article said 7-7 school vote split at this time for the schedule format. by rbtgoodson
Truthfully, I don't understand the rationale that anyone has against the following:

SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina
SEC North: Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt
SEC South: LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Texas A&M
SEC West: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Texas

SEC Network A: Content focused on the SEC East and North
SEC Network B: Content focused on the SEC South and West

SEC Semi-Finals: Atlanta and Dallas
SEC Championship: Atlanta, Dallas, Nashville, New Orleans

Conference Games: 9 (3 Divisional, 6 Rotational)
Rivalry Games: Eliminated (or having them set somewhere between 1-3)



A - SEC WILL NOT put same-state schools in different groups.
B - Which annual rivalries have you now put every other year?
C - WHY have a playoff to get the SEC champ...who goes into ANOTHER playoff?

I'm sure there's more.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:38 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9687 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:50 pm to
I've posted about how the 4 with the ACC opponent & needing 7H/year games have to always host #'s 11 & 12.

4H SEC games
1H ACC game
#11H game
#12H game


5H SEC games
#11H game
#12H game

Therefore, they could NEVER visit anybody's stadium.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:58 pm to
quote:


As a LSU fan I despise losing the Florida and Auburn game as permanent opponents


That really does suck. Those were THE games when I was at LSU.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
9687 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:00 pm to
I like this EXCEPT SEC won't split same-state schools (Ala./Aub., Tn./Vandy, Miss./MSU, TA&M/Tx.) in different groups.

However, it looks like that has to be done for this format.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 11:08 pm to
I can't see ole miss not playing lsu and ms state and I expect they want Bama or arky.

7 & 1 ain't gonna cut it.

And Aggies have a lot of history with arky and lsu and texass
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15286 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 2:04 am to
quote:

Mizzou, Texas and pick up South Carolina.
for THAT, yeah- we'd take it. Rather have ole Miss or LSU than South Carolina though.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 2:05 am
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5992 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:07 am to
The goal is to play every team, every two years. The athletes should have an opportunity to play in every stadium in a four year career.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6772 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

One of the 3/6 scenarios has UF getting Oklahoma and South Carolina for the other 2 permanent games. If that’s the case why would we vote for 3/6


Because UF in future has ACC ooc rival game...

Miami and FSU.

While others that voted for 3-6 don't have that
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
2577 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:36 pm to
I think that we’re the most likely. That’s just me spitballing though.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:40 pm to
Sorry for jumping here late:

Is 4-4 so unappealing that it can’t be done? 1-7 and 3-6 are gonna cut out a lot of traditional matchups that an old fart like me loves.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45554 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:42 pm to
I know Kentucky doesn't want more conference games because they've been loudly objecting to that.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6772 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

One of the 3/6 scenarios has UF getting Oklahoma and South Carolina for the other 2 permanent games. If that’s the case why would we vote for 3/6




You wouldn't.With FSU and Miami becoming OOC opponents for yall in future it make sense to vote for the 1-7.

No one else in SEC has 2 OOC games like that.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6772 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

How do you know that?

In the future they will be adding Miami to non conference.

Make 2 power five OOC rivalries. Why would they vote for 6-3?
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