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Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:26 am to WDE24
I'll give an e-fistbump to anyone that can give me a 2 or 3 sentence recap of what this thread is all about. I want to know, but I don't want to read all of it.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:27 am to WDE24
Auburn is a career criminal in the eyes of the NCAA. 
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:27 am to WDE24
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He is a basement dweller.
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AAARRRRGHHHH! secrets have been revealed!! Must change username!!!!
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:28 am to woopiginaustin
Danny Sheridan made claims on Finebaum about the NCAA closing in on Auburn and the bagman that paid Cam. Then, ATPB, Jr.
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Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:29 am to WDE24
Maybe one of the Bama fans can help out on this one, but didn't Sheridan claim that Bama would be cleared in the Means case?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:29 am to woopiginaustin
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I'll give an e-fistbump to anyone that can give me a 2 or 3 sentence recap of what this thread is all about. I want to know, but I don't want to read all of it.
Bammers: AUBURN IS GOING DOWN!! SHERIDAN SAID SO!!
Barners: SHERIDAN IS A frickIN BAMMER!! CATCH US IF YOU CAN!!
Everyone else:
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:30 am to AUCatfish
quote:I have no idea. Some in here said that Sheridan claimed Bama would just get a slap on the wrist, but I don't know that to be true.
but didn't Sheridan claim that Bama would be cleared in the Means case?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:30 am to woopiginaustin
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woopiginaustin
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2 or 3 sentence recap of what this thread is all about
Sports odds maker Danny Sheridan claimed on Finebaum yesterday afternoon that he (Sheridan) has a source at the NCAA who confirmed the investigation into Cam/AU is ongoing. He also claimed that they (NCAA) believes they've found the alleged "bagman" and are hoping that he will come forward. He later seemed to back track a bit and claimed they "think" they've found the alleged bagman. The thread has been a pointless back and forth about the credibility of his source with a healthy dose of doom predicted by Bama fans and prediction of skating by AU fans.
That's more than 3, but it's the best I could do.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:30 am to WDE24
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Then, ATPB, Jr.
I coined that. If there is eventually a book/movie/interpretive dance on the subject, I want royalties.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:30 am to WDE24
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You are taking Cecil's latest quote out of context and using it as some form of admission.
No, Im pointing out that he had the chance to flat out say, "No nothing happened, and didn't. And that is more than a little strange. Im not making up what he said.
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He said he was transparent with the NCAA and they had the truth in their files. Said he didn't want to re-open that can worms and then said he was going with the NCAA findings are.
Which tells us nothing, since we dont know whats in the ncaa fies and we dont know what he's told them.
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You however, present it as an admission and ignore the context and the fact that he has denied receiving any money in the past.
I didnt treat it as an admission. An admission would mean an open and shut case. I treated it as yet another piece of evidence that has to be looked at. Why would he just not continue to deny taking money? Its a valid question.
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You pick and choose what "facts" you want to believe and ignore the ones that don't fit the conclusion you believe to be true.
What facts have i ignored? Please tell me. That Cecil has denied taking money in the past? Of course he does. if he didnt, the case would be over. He had no reason to tell the truth if he were guilty. What makes his lst interview compelling is that, after months of strong denials, he comes off that position with such a weak sttement. Could it be nothing? Possibly, but it still looks pretty damn bad and must be taken in consideration with other known facts.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:32 am to winyahpercy
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which leads to crux of the 1800 pages w/ the ATPB thread. the two big elephants in the room are:
1. bingo-gate where a lot of money was moving around to buy votes and influence.
2. colonial - uncle sam had to stroke a check for $2 billion to payoff their bad management so they have a very keen interest into finding any illegal mismanagement.
are there connections to Auburn w/ these two big elephants in the room? answer yes. however, it is speculative and it's just as plausible that crimes could have occurred that don't implicate Auburn.
I have yet to see the connection between John Bond (old MSU player) that was interviewed by the FBI and those old gray elephants you're talking about (Milton & Bobby).
They appear to be three seperate issues altogether to me - - - -
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:32 am to WDE24
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Some in here said that Sheridan claimed Bama would just get a slap on the wrist, but I don't know that to be true.
If true, it would seem to bring his impeccable sources at the NCAA into question.
Yes, this is an attempt to steer us out of ATPB land.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:33 am to WDE24
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How the frick can you know that?
Common sense. In any type of investigation, you don't release things, even confidentially, until you are damn certain of them. Now, is it possible the ncaa is wrong? Sure. Is it possible the ncaa knows and simply cant prove? Very possible. But ou dont say that when all you have is your thumb up your butt.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:33 am to AUCatfish
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Maybe one of the Bama fans can help out on this one, but didn't Sheridan claim that Bama would be cleared in the Means case?
He said it that the NCAA would accept our self imposed penalties (15 schollies lost, 2 yrs probation I think). His source was Gene Marsh on that. Marsh was a frick up and was telling anyone who would listen that it was going to be "ok". Marsh got us screwed & then got himself a role at NCAA. Now he represents people (Tressel) in trouble with NCAA.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:33 am to ThaKaptin
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Lies, we all know you're a closet ATPB fan.
I'm a huge ATPB fan. Its useful.
When my buddies who are fans of other schools get uppity about Auburn's "troubles", I just look at them and say "Oh really? Well, I've got a great site for you to go to and discuss this with like-minded people!"
And, when they get back, they look like this:
Mission accomplished!
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:33 am to WDE24
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I have no idea. Some in here said that Sheridan claimed Bama would just get a slap on the wrist, but I don't know that to be true.
I think he's recently said that OSU will get a 2 year TV ban as well.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:33 am to AUCatfish
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but didn't Sheridan claim that Bama would be cleared in the Means case?
Nope
Posted on 7/21/11 at 11:34 am to AUCatfish
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Maybe one of the Bama fans can help out on this one, but didn't Sheridan claim that Bama would be cleared in the Means case?
No ~ He just didn't think we were gonna get hammered as bad as we did. I didn't think we'd get hammered that bad either.
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