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re: Serious question: why is Pruitt looked at as a good DC?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:35 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:35 pm to WG_Dawg
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So instead of the #3 overall defense we may only have a top 10 defense? Fine, we'll take it
over time, sure... but if people are expecting that next season, they're setting themselves up for major disappointment, imo.
Getting somewhere inside the top 40 would be a good start for JP... those first two games are going to be brutal. FSU's schedule allowed for some growing pains early.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:37 pm to lowspark12
Even if you claim that FSU has more talent, then UGA will have better personnel for the 3-4 than FSU and much more experience than Pruitt's in his 1st year at FSU.
We have ridiculous talent on D though and they won't be as young next year. Everybody in the southeast wanted Josh Harvey-Clemons, Ray Drew, Damian Swann, Amarlo Herrerra, Tray Matthews, Leonard Floyd, etc. And that's just some of the starters. We are very talented on D.
We have ridiculous talent on D though and they won't be as young next year. Everybody in the southeast wanted Josh Harvey-Clemons, Ray Drew, Damian Swann, Amarlo Herrerra, Tray Matthews, Leonard Floyd, etc. And that's just some of the starters. We are very talented on D.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:38 pm to lowspark12
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those first two games are going to be brutal.
Usually are, except this time we don't have Grantham and know without a doubt it's going to be a shite show.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:38 pm to MenloDawg
Pruitt ran a four man front at FSU this year... he'll mold his scheme to fit his personnel, im sure.
again, if you're expecting a top 10 unit next year, you're probably gonna be pissed... i'll eat my crow if i'm wrong.
again, if you're expecting a top 10 unit next year, you're probably gonna be pissed... i'll eat my crow if i'm wrong.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:40 pm to lowspark12
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Pruitt ran a four man front at FSU this year... he'll mold his scheme to fit his personnel, im sure.
This lets me know you haven't read enough about the guy. He didn't run an exclusive 4 man scheme. He's a 3-4 guy that had to change it up to a 4 man to match his personnel.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:40 pm to lowspark12
I'll settle for a competent defense in year 1 which will still be miles ahead of the cavalcade of comedy that was the 2013 unit. Talk about watching a monkey try to frick a door knob...
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:41 pm to lowspark12
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over time, sure... but if people are expecting that next season, they're setting themselves up for major disappointment, imo.
I was being facetious, we don't expect a top 10 defense, but with the pieces we have in place we expect to have a damn good one. It's not a stretch AT ALL to think we can be a top 20 defense next year while returning 10 starters loaded with talent.
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Getting somewhere inside the top 40 would be a good start for JP
We can do far better than that.
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those first two games are going to be brutal
Clemson loses Bryant, McDowell, Watkins, and Boyd. SC loses maybe their best QB ever. And the thing is it's not like we just continually got our arses whooped by those teams. It was a stupid mistake here, communication error there, poor assignment here, etc. A good, competent coach can fix those things immediately.
You can fix coaching mistakes real quick, you can't fix talent except for once a year. We have the talent, and we have the experience, just lack the coaching. There's nothing to suggest Pruitt won't make our defense at least twice as good as it was last year.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:41 pm to lowspark12
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over time, sure... but if people are expecting that next season, they're setting themselves up for major disappointment, imo.
Basically, verbatim what everyone else told you guys when Gus took over with a new staff. Your fanbase of all fanbases should know that if talent is already on campus, albeit unrealized potential, it can turn around quite quickly with the right coach at the helm.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:43 pm to lowspark12
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Pruitt ran a four man front at FSU this year... he'll mold his scheme to fit his personnel, im sure.
He ran a 4 man mixed with some 3-4 action. He did this match the personnel he had.
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The number two Seminoles are tied for the Football Bowl Subdivision lead with 18 interceptions this season, the first under defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt. Combining a multi-faceted 3-4 scheme with the phenomenal athletes FSU is known for has given the Noles the number four scoring defense in the country.
We have the personnel for the 3-4 that he likes to run.
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This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:43 pm to lowspark12
I've never suggested that we'll have a top 10 unit. And we dont need a top 10 unit given our weapons on offense. Top 25 would be a dream.
Pruitt is a 3-4 guy given his background who had to mesh his system with his personnel. He won't have to do that next year.
I'm merely looking for an improvement in pass D and 3rd down conversion rate from Grantham. There's very little question that will happen.
Pruitt is a 3-4 guy given his background who had to mesh his system with his personnel. He won't have to do that next year.
I'm merely looking for an improvement in pass D and 3rd down conversion rate from Grantham. There's very little question that will happen.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:43 pm to MenloDawg
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Damian Swann
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:44 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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This lets me know you haven't read enough about the guy. He didn't run an exclusive 4 man scheme. He's a 3-4 guy that had to change it up to a 4 man to match his personnel.
Is that not what this means?...
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Pruitt ran a four man front at FSU this year... he'll mold his scheme to fit his personnel, im sure.
i watched a ton of FSU heading into the BCSCG (some FSU fan condensed all the FSU games to like 20 minutes, cutting out all the fluff... they're on youtube if you're interested)... they were almost exclusively in four man front... their starting lineup even listed four downlinemen, I believe.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:45 pm to Coach Bobby Williams
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Coach Bobby Williams
Are you dumb son? He was a high 4* that shut down sammy watkins in camps all summer before college. Everyone DID want him, and he's had a pretty solid career here with the exception of last year when he was 1 of 2 upperclassmen.
Not sure what you think is so funny.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:48 pm to JStanDawgFan
Regardless of who was hired, the UGA D was going to be better next year, just due to one more year of experience.
Also, while the offensive injuries got all the pub, there were some significant injuries on defense as well--especially in the preseason that kept young and/or inexperienced guys from some pretty important reps during scrimmages and practices,
As to how Pruitt turns out, we will all just have to see. Personally I think getting a guy who just had a top5 defense and a MNC in addition to being an outstanding recruiter for 850K a year is a deal I would take every day of the week and twice on Saturdays. Especially since the going rate for DCs these days is going up apparently.
Also, while the offensive injuries got all the pub, there were some significant injuries on defense as well--especially in the preseason that kept young and/or inexperienced guys from some pretty important reps during scrimmages and practices,
As to how Pruitt turns out, we will all just have to see. Personally I think getting a guy who just had a top5 defense and a MNC in addition to being an outstanding recruiter for 850K a year is a deal I would take every day of the week and twice on Saturdays. Especially since the going rate for DCs these days is going up apparently.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:49 pm to lowspark12
My argument is he's more comfortable with the 3-4 which is what we're set up for. He only ran the 4 man front because that's what FSU was set up for.
If I'm confused by your argument I apologize. I thought you were saying it would be a learning curve as he tries to implement a new scheme he's not used to.
If I'm confused by your argument I apologize. I thought you were saying it would be a learning curve as he tries to implement a new scheme he's not used to.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:50 pm to WG_Dawg
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Not sure what you think is so funny.
Two words Amari. Cooper.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:50 pm to FlatwoodsForester
I wasn't making any kind of argument in my post... simply stating a fact about FSUs defense this past year. Auburn fans probably watched more FSU stuff than anybody.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:51 pm to lowspark12
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Auburn fans probably watched more FSU stuff than anybody.
No doubt.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:53 pm to Coach Bobby Williams
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Two words Amari. Cooper
So you're taking 1 game, probably more like 3 or 4 plays in particular, from a game from 2012 and insinuating that colleges all over America didn't want a player while he was a senior in high school because of it.
Yeah, you struggle with intelligence.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:00 pm to adammwilson
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What a load of crap. UGA had a talented D in 2012 and it was very disappointing.
You underestimate how much a NG like Jernigan improves a defense. Georgia had nobody on Jernigan's level that year. UGA also didn't have a playmaker like Joyner in the secondary.
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And yet, he was able to do enough to stop the prolific Gus Bus.
He slowed us down,but he didn't stop us. FSU just had the ball at the right time in the 4th.
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He has SEC experience. Just stop please.... you're embarrassing yourself.
Being the DB coach at Bama, when everybody know that Saban is in control of the DBs =/= SEC DC experience.
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