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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:33 am to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:33 am to
So the fact those who she supposedly quoted and denying those quotes has no bearing?

So you believe the players quotes about Auburn, but don't believe their denials of ever saying that or that she misquoted them?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:38 am to
I work in news and I can tell you in all honesty, the last thing a reporter with a story this big would do is misquote someone. You open yourself up for countless lawsuits that could bankrupt you or land you in prison.

I see Auburn players denying things, I don't see any of them suing for libel.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:40 am to
Depends: does she have audio recordings of her conversations with the Auburn players in question? Pretty sure this is standard practice of most journalists now.

Also, I'd backtrack on every damn word of what I'd said if someone printed my name in a piece like this one. Deny, Deny, Deny. Or else you'd wake up with a bloody YellaFella two-by-four in your bed.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:41 am to
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see Auburn players denying things, I don't see any of them suing for libel.


The story just broke newsman. Let's see how it plays out.
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:42 am to
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Is she Auburn alumna?


quote:

Is this a desperation move on her behalf and she used her Auburn alumna insider status to assemble these latest findings?


Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:43 am to
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Let's see how it plays out


It'll be pretty entertaining for most of us.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:44 am to
I am not trying say they aren't trying to spin, I am just questioning those who think because the reporter with a bad history wouldn't think of fabricating or misquoting. Some are buying fully into her story, but immediately dismissing the players denials. I just want the truth and look forward to her releasing the tapes.
Posted by atlau
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:47 am to
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does she have audio recordings of her conversations with the Auburn players in question? Pretty sure this is standard practice of most journalists now.


This

And please stop calling her a "journalist" It's already been proven she misrepresents facts (see Duke lacrosse) to fit her preconceived theories. This piece showed up on a blogging site. Bloggers are not held to the same standards journalists are.

Regrettably, social media has negatively impacted journalism. Everyone wants to be the first to break a story so many journalistic rules have gone out the window - taking time to confirm sources, fact checking, etc.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 9:48 am
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:48 am to
Said Blanc, "We thought we would be without Mike Dyer because he said he was one of them, but Auburn found a way to make those dudes eligible."

creative misquoting?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:51 am to
You must not read very well. She may very well have it right, however, the fact she has a bad past of doing shitty work, you just can't discount the players denials. She should have tape and clear it up I am sure.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:53 am to
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Everyone wants to be the first to break a story so many journalistic rules have gone out the window - taking time to confirm sources, fact checking, etc.


This statement is true to an extent, but not for the reason you think it is. Nowadays with breaking news being shared immediately, people are able to follow a story in real time as it develops. Reporters might tweet 'House fire in Washington County' as soon as they hear it come across the scanner. Then they will tweet live updates as more information becomes available.

They still confirm sources and fact check.

And this is not a breaking news story so the above scenario is irrelevant. Roberts spent a lot of time on this story, she's not just throwing shite at a wall.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 9:55 am
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:54 am to
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I see Auburn players denying things, I don't see any of them suing for libel.


Time will tell..
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 9:59 am to
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scrooster
Selena Roberts
It just hit me.

Is this the same Selena Roberts that started the whole Duke Lacrosse scandal that ended-up being bullshite?


Duke lacrosse scandal...Mostly bullshite...they weren't rapists, but they were scumbags and there was a culture which needed to change and apparently did change.

A-Rod...she was dead on the money

Lance Armstrong...also dead on the money.

I'd say her in most recent investigations she's pretty much nailed it.

Vindication by Armstong admissions.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:00 am to
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She should have tape and clear it up I am sure.


the only good that tapes will do is keep her from a potential lawsuit. It won't matter for the NCAA. Just look at what became of the players that went on HBO. There is video proof of their testimony, and nothing became of it. So I'm not holding my breath that tapes are going to matter a whole lot in this circumstance.
Posted by ThaKaptin
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:00 am to
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We deal in fallacious reasoning


Is that anything like falatious, because if so, where does the fricking line start?
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:01 am to
I thought the article was extremely sloppy. The evidence to back up the insinuations is weak or weakly presented. Roberts appears to lack journalistic integrity. These things call into question the accuracy of the article. Nevertheless, the article may be 100% true. Just like tabloids get it right sometimes. However, just like tabloids, Roberts appears less interested in getting it right and more interested in getting it out there, truth, credibility and confirmation be damned. This seems to be the unstoppable direction journalism is headed unfortunately.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 10:02 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:02 am to
I don't give a damn about the NCAA because nothing will come of it. I want to hear the tapes to see if she is lying or the players.
Posted by atlau
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:02 am to
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Stonehog


How do you know how much time Roberts spent writing this blog post?

The thing itself is horrible. She lumps in Chizik's alleged hate for dreadlocks and tattoos with the justice system in Auburn? She talks about how police officers pulled guns on them for minor traffic violations and how Muschamp paid players. It literally sounds like a delusional SECRanter after too many whiskey drinks.

Face it. The kid broke the law and he is trying to blame everyone else. And Roberts is looking for a way to be relevant. If this was such a huge story, why was it posted to a blog no one ever heard of before yesterday instead of SI or NYT?

You say you work in news. Then you should know that once a reporter's credibility is impugned (Duke lacrosse) then it is hard to believe that person moving forward.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:03 am to
Well said and I agree.
Posted by tylerdurden24
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 10:03 am to
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Is that anything like falatious, because if so, where does the fricking line start?

OT board. IM thread.
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