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Posted on 5/13/08 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/13/08 at 12:43 pm
Did a search but couldn't find answers to some of my questions about this.
Are we the only conference that has this STUPID rule ?
Was this voted on by the coaches and ADs from every school ?
But, my biggest gripe about this rule is that the teams travel during the week and play a night game, what's the difference ???
Why can basketball games be played late at night on a school night and nothing be said about it ? Will they now look at telling basketball teams they can't go into OT if it is too late and have to end in a tie ?
Seems like the NCAA would tell ALL schools to have the same rules and since no other major college sport can end in a tie, why should SEC baseball ?
Your Thoughts ???
Are we the only conference that has this STUPID rule ?
Was this voted on by the coaches and ADs from every school ?
But, my biggest gripe about this rule is that the teams travel during the week and play a night game, what's the difference ???
Why can basketball games be played late at night on a school night and nothing be said about it ? Will they now look at telling basketball teams they can't go into OT if it is too late and have to end in a tie ?
Seems like the NCAA would tell ALL schools to have the same rules and since no other major college sport can end in a tie, why should SEC baseball ?
Your Thoughts ???
This post was edited on 5/13/08 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/13/08 at 12:44 pm to Steven4bama
It's definitely a stupid conference rule, not NCAA.
It makes no sense at all, but I doubt it'll be changed anytime soon.
It makes no sense at all, but I doubt it'll be changed anytime soon.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 12:55 pm to Steven4bama
The rule itself is not a bad one. No need for them to miss another day of class when they can be home Sunday night.
The problem is with the idiots responsible for setting the start time on Sundays. On those days when the curfew is in effect, simply start the game 5 hours before. This will avoid any problems.
But we live in the bible belt and doing anything before noon is taboo. Don't want people to miss church.
The problem is with the idiots responsible for setting the start time on Sundays. On those days when the curfew is in effect, simply start the game 5 hours before. This will avoid any problems.
But we live in the bible belt and doing anything before noon is taboo. Don't want people to miss church.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 1:51 pm to JustSmokin
Nice cheap shot at religion. It's the SEC's problem, not the so-called bible belt's. 

Posted on 5/13/08 at 1:55 pm to mta504
Nothing cheap about it. I can't help it if you don't understand the influence religion has on events held on Sundays in the south.
Ask Skip if you don't believe me.
Ask Skip if you don't believe me.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 2:08 pm to JustSmokin
So it was religious people that forced the SEC to adopt the rule? Prove it. Its the other way around, the SEC could care less about religion.
BTW for the MissSt series & S Carolina series there was no travel rule for that weekend...guess the religious people didn't go to church that Sunday. moron.
BTW for the MissSt series & S Carolina series there was no travel rule for that weekend...guess the religious people didn't go to church that Sunday. moron.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 2:09 pm to JustSmokin
I think alot has to do with the television rights.
I know alot of LSU games are on CST? Well, I heard they can not show the game against the game of the week shown on TV at the same time (hence, earlier games on Saturday vs night games).
Also, I thought the rule really applies for teams that fly commercial, not charter?
It is a silly rule at any case
I know alot of LSU games are on CST? Well, I heard they can not show the game against the game of the week shown on TV at the same time (hence, earlier games on Saturday vs night games).
Also, I thought the rule really applies for teams that fly commercial, not charter?
It is a silly rule at any case

Posted on 5/13/08 at 2:11 pm to mta504
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BTW for the MissSt series & S Carolina series there was no travel rule for that weekend...guess the religious people didn't go to church that Sunday. moron
He isn't talking about the rule to leave early, he is talking about starting games early and the SEC wont do it because people don't want a game to start at a time when people are still in church !
Posted on 5/13/08 at 2:17 pm to Steven4bama
And you have proof of this I'm sure.
As I said just a cheap shot at religion so I won't hold my breath waiting for your proof of the religous conspiracy against the SEC Sunday baseball games.

As I said just a cheap shot at religion so I won't hold my breath waiting for your proof of the religous conspiracy against the SEC Sunday baseball games.

Posted on 5/13/08 at 2:22 pm to mta504
Maybe I should type slower, will that help you?
The travel rule was put in place to make sure teams don't miss the plane ride back home. SEC cities don't have airports with 24 hour service, so if the game runs pass a certain time, they'll miss their flight, have to sleep over, and miss part or all of class on Monday.
And no, the travel rule isn't always in effect if teams charter a flight or take the bus (see MSU and USC). The goal is to get back home Sunday night. The rule has nothing to do with religion.
Religion plays a part with the starting time of these games on Sundays. Schools try to avoid starting too early so fans won't miss the start of the game. LSU didn't start until noon for the Sunday game against UGA, which had the travel rule in effect.
Never thought a simple subject would confuse someone.
The travel rule was put in place to make sure teams don't miss the plane ride back home. SEC cities don't have airports with 24 hour service, so if the game runs pass a certain time, they'll miss their flight, have to sleep over, and miss part or all of class on Monday.
And no, the travel rule isn't always in effect if teams charter a flight or take the bus (see MSU and USC). The goal is to get back home Sunday night. The rule has nothing to do with religion.
Religion plays a part with the starting time of these games on Sundays. Schools try to avoid starting too early so fans won't miss the start of the game. LSU didn't start until noon for the Sunday game against UGA, which had the travel rule in effect.
Never thought a simple subject would confuse someone.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 2:37 pm to mta504
religion definitely has an impact on starting times on Sunday. My dad asked Skip why they didn't start games earlier on Sunday one time and his response was church. That was a while ago though
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:25 pm to Steven4bama
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Are we the only conference that has this STUPID rule ?
I have no idea. I do know that schools from other conferences do sometimes have a tie on their record, so it's possible that they have some form of the rule also.
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Was this voted on by the coaches and ADs from every school ?
I assume it was voted on by some group with authority to make such rules. Who exactly makes up this group is unknown to me, but I would assume that all 12 schools are represented.
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But, my biggest gripe about this rule is that the teams travel during the week and play a night game, what's the difference ???
The difference is that the SEC can't make rules that are binding on schools who are not in the SEC. If the SEC had the power to regulate these games, they probably would impose the same rule on them.
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Why can basketball games be played late at night on a school night and nothing be said about it ?
It's not about how late it is. It's about being able to have stable, reliable travel schedules so schools don't incur prohibitive cost as a result of missing a flight. That's why the rule is not in effect when the visiting school travels by charter plane. Basketball games have less potential to go on endlessly without a resolution because basketball games are limited by time rather than innings and scoring in basketball is much more common, reducing the chance of endless ties through a lot of overtimes. That's why the rule isn't necessary in basketball.
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Seems like the NCAA would tell ALL schools to have the same rules and since no other major college sport can end in a tie, why should SEC baseball ?
Football had ties until 1996 and soccer still has them, I think. But mainly, I think the reason the NCAA doesn't mandate a nation wide rule is that it doesn't regard this as a major problem, sees no reason to regulate it and is therefore content to let the schools and conferences regulate it as they see fit.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:30 pm to mta504
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So it was religious people that forced the SEC to adopt the rule?
Of course not. SEC schools simply realized that a large part of their fan base goes to church on Sunday mornings and decided it would not be a good idea to make these fans choose between church and a sporting event, probably fearing that the sporting event would lose out on that competition with a sizable number of fans. They just didn't want to lose money by scheduling events at a time when a lot of fans probably wouldn't be there.
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BTW for the MissSt series & S Carolina series there was no travel rule for that weekend...guess the religious people didn't go to church that Sunday. moron
No, it's you who are the moron. The poster you are responding to drew no connection whatsoever between religion and the travel rule. He said it was the STARTING TIMES of the Sunday games that was influenced by the fact that we are in the bible belt. And he was absolutely right.
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Its the other way around
So, you're saying that the churches schedule their services around SEC baseball games? Or are you just mindlessly typing completely stupid bullshite here like you were in the entirety of the rest of your post?
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:32 pm to mta504
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just a cheap shot at religion so I won't hold my breath waiting for your proof of the religous conspiracy against the SEC Sunday baseball games
It's not a cheap shot and there's no religious conspiracy against SEC Sunday baseball games. It's simply a fact that most churches hold services on Sunday mornings and a lot of people, particularly in the south, take religion seriously enough that they would choose to go to church rather than a baseball game if forced to choose. SEC schools are simply sellers of a product and want to offer their product in the way that maximizes their customer base.
You have issues.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:34 pm to JustSmokin
Again, where is your proof of a religious conspiracy? Where is the statement by the SEC stating church as the reason for the travel rule? Unless you can prove that, stop attacking religious people.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:35 pm to JustSmokin
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Maybe I should type slower, will that help you?
You can type as slowly as you want, but it won't help. That guy is way off the deep end and well beyond the help of anyone who isn't authorized to prescribe medication.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:37 pm to mta504
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Again, where is your proof of a religious conspiracy? Where is the statement by the SEC stating church as the reason for the travel rule? Unless you can prove that, stop attacking religious people.

Sorry, I thought you were a sane person. I'll move along now.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:37 pm to TigerBait1127
"that was a while ago though"....so again no proof of a religious conspiracy. Just "somebody said so".
Somebody please show me the SEC document, policy or actual rule that says "we don't start Sunday games earlier due to church-going people".
Otherwise STFU...it's pure rumor & speculation. Then again, that's all you have.
Somebody please show me the SEC document, policy or actual rule that says "we don't start Sunday games earlier due to church-going people".
Otherwise STFU...it's pure rumor & speculation. Then again, that's all you have.
Posted on 5/13/08 at 3:40 pm to mta504
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Again, where is your proof of a religious conspiracy? Where is the statement by the SEC stating church as the reason for the travel rule? Unless you can prove that, stop attacking religious people.
See what I mean, Smokin? The guy is certifiable.
By the way, mta504, when you hear someone use the term "religious wacko", they're talking about you.
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