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SEC Scheduling vs Service Academies

Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:30 am
The current dust-up over UT ducking Army got me interested in how often the SEC schools schedule the service academies.

As far as regular season matchups (excluding bowl games) as a member of the SEC (excludes games played before the SEC formed or before teams joined the SEC), it breaks down as follows:

Alabama: 0
Arkansas: 0
Auburn: 0
Florida: 2
Georgia: 1
Kentucky: 0
LSU: 0
Miss St: 2
Mizzou: 0
Ole Miss: 0
So Car: 1
Tenner: 9
TAMU: 0
Vandy: 20


It's turns out it's rather rare for an SEC school to schedule a service academy team during the regular season.

35 times in 89 years.*

* Former SEC Schools

Georgia Tech: 8
Tulane: 6
Sewanee: 1
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
7796 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:35 am to
Or you could just say 5 games in 89 years outside of the Tennessee schools who played 29 times.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26496 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:35 am to
You're missing a lot of stuff. For instance, Georgia has played Navy twice regular season.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
7796 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:37 am to
quote:

You're missing a lot of stuff. For instance, Georgia has played Navy twice regular season.


A lot of teams have also played that military school in Texas.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:38 am to
Alabama played Army in 1988.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1899 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Or you could just say 5 games in 89 years outside of the Tennessee schools..



Vandy's 20 don't count?
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
7796 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:39 am to
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Alabama played Army in 1988.

In the Sun Bowl..
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
529 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:40 am to
quote:

You're missing a lot of stuff. For instance, Georgia has played Navy twice regular season.



Thank you for the correction, UGA did play Navy once as a member of the SEC in 1957.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 10:42 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
7796 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Vandy's 20 don't count?

Of course they count.. but my point was that it was silly to list so many teams with a 0.. when it was mainly just two teams.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:44 am to
Does The Citadel count?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/23/21 at 10:44 am to
We’re playing Army in 2023 I think
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
1899 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Of course they count.. but my point was that it was silly to list so many teams with a 0.. when it was mainly just two teams.



My bad. Misread Tennessee schools as just Tennessee. Duh
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15828 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Vandy's 20 don't count?




Psssssst. Vandy is in Tennessee
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42347 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:04 am to
LSU is playing Army in 2023 in Tiger Stadium

I know LSU reached out to Air Force and Navy as well and even offered to play a service academy in a neutral type setting but I don't think they got very far on that

A previous chancellor was the one that advocated playing the service academies due to his military background

The LSU baseball team has hosted Army and Air Force several times
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
529 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:09 am to
This is only a historic list.

I don't think any blanket conclusions can be reached. For all I know, every SEC team is reaching out to the service academies every year trying to schedule games.

I'm just noting that the frequency with which it occurs is pretty rare.
Posted by RickDorf
Nothing to prove Nothing to lose
Member since Jan 2021
3294 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 11:45 am to
A whole lot of downside for playing these gimmick triple-option teams and almost no upside.
Posted by gamecockhub
Lexington, SC
Member since Sep 2017
366 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 12:01 pm to
As you posted USC has played Navy once since joining the SEC. All time we've played 8 against Navy going back to 1920. Against Army 3 times in the 1950s. Have not played AF yet.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

LSU: 0

LSU played Army in West Point in 1931. LSU also played the Citadel in 2002. They have a future game against Army scheduled
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 12:08 pm to
We played the Citadel one year does that count?
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
529 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

LSU played Army in West Point in 1931.


I understand.

But the SEC was not a conference until 1932.

My general understanding of what would be described as a "service academy" to the casual fan would be Army, Navy and Air Force, the schools that compete at the D1 level and participate for the CIC trophy.

If your understanding includes the Citadel, then feel free to adjust accordingly.
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