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re: SEC Realignment Proposal

Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:05 am to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:05 am to
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I do understand the importance of Bama-Tenn and AU- UGA. so something would need to be figured out I don't know if this is the answer.


9 game schedule is the only way to make everyone happy, including the fans. 12 years between game with UGA/USCe/Tenn isn't acceptable and Bama-Tenn/AU-UGA isn't going to be given up.

ETA: And those 4 teams being the only ones with permanent opponents isn't going to fly either.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 11:07 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:07 am to
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9 game schedule is the only way to make everyone happy
No it's not.

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12 years between game with UGA/USCe/Tenn isn't
Where are you getting 12 years between games?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:08 am to
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Where are you getting 12 years between games?


12 years between home games.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:10 am to
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No it's not.


As I said before Bama-Tenn/UGA-AU aren't going to give up that game every year and you can't have those 4 teams being the only ones with permanent cross division opponents. That means they either go to a 9 game schedule or stay at 8, which many fans aren't too happy with because of the time between home games with each team from the other division.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:11 am to
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9 game schedule is the only way to make everyone happy,

except not really
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:12 am to
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except not really


Let's hear your solution then
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:16 am to
We shouldn't have expanded in the first place, but now it should stay the way it is
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:19 am to
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We shouldn't have expanded in the first place, but now it should stay the way it is


You just proved my point for me. The only choice the conference has (if they want to keep everything as fair as possible) is to either keep it at 8 games with 1 permanent and 1 rotating, or go to 9 games with 1 permanent and 2 rotation.

If your ok with Bama/LSU/aTm only coming to Athens once every 12 years then it works. Personally I want to LSU to host UGA/USCe/Tenn more that.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:22 am to
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which many fans aren't too happy with because of the time between home games with each team from the other division.
Are the fans happy with National Championships? Because you're jeopardizing them by going to a more difficult 9 game schedule. You're also going to reduce the number of quality OOC opponents your team plays since they'll load up on cupcakes to get more home games and more $$$.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:26 am to
With the 4 team playoff I think the sec would still get in with 2 losses most year.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:27 am to
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Are the fans happy with National Championships? Because you're jeopardizing them by going to a more difficult 9 game schedule.


If LSU has a NC worthy team they won't lose 2 games so I don't have to worry about that.


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You're also going to reduce the number of quality OOC opponents your team plays since they'll load up on cupcakes to get more home games and more $$$.


I hate it when LSU plays cupcakes. I would rather them play one "good" OOC game at a neutral site (Oregon @ Cowboys stadium, Wisonsin @ Reliant and @ Lambeau), 1 more SEC team, a state team (I want LSU to renew the series with Tulane), and 1 cupcake.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:28 am to
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With the 4 team playoff I think the sec would still get in with 2 losses most year.

Not over undefeated or 1 loss conference champs.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25875 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:29 am to
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If your ok with Bama/LSU/aTm only coming to Athens once every 12 years then it works. Personally I want to LSU to host UGA/USCe/Tenn more that.

From UGA's perspective, we need to keep the DSOR so the permanent opponents need to stay. In terms of number of games, the 9-game model restricts UGA's scheduling flexibility too much with the GT rivalry and a traditional neutral site conference game, both of which are valued traditions.

I'm ok with playing West teams less if it means we can keep the other benefits.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:32 am to
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the 9-game model restricts UGA's scheduling flexibility too much with the GT rivalry and a traditional neutral site conference game


I can see why you want to stay at 8 games. It's going to be different with each fan, but there are still only 2 viable options. Neither is going to make everyone happy, but they are the only way to keep everything fair.

I think it stays at 8 games too. I just don't like it.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39993 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:33 am to
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I hate it when LSU plays cupcakes. I would rather them play one "good" OOC game at a neutral site (Oregon @ Cowboys stadium, Wisonsin @ Reliant and @ Lambeau), 1 more SEC team, a state team (I want LSU to renew the series with Tulane), and 1 cupcake.
Now that's a murderers row. You would be okay if you picked up UF, USCe, and UGA from the East, then played Oregon and a cupcake while OSU would play a 9 game Big10 schedule, half of which are cupcakes? I just see it as not giving your team the best possibility to win a Natty.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:36 am to
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We've been playing each other since 1971

And every year since 1953 except for 68-70.

Since 53, UF is LSU's third most played team behind Ole Miss and State with 58 games in 61 years.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43810 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 11:37 am to
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You would be okay if you picked up UF, USCe, and UGA from the East, then played Oregon and a cupcake while OSU would play a 9 game Big10 schedule, half of which are cupcakes?


I would be fine with this. I prefer watching LSU play teams with a pulse.


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I just see it as not giving your team the best possibility to win a Natty.


Like I said before, if LSU has a NC quality team they will lose 1 game at most. 2011 was a NC quality team and they blew the doors off of every team they played except Bama (including Big East Champ at their house and Pac-12/Rose Bowl champ @ Cowboys stadium).
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 11:40 am
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 12:37 pm to
So let's see, 5 of the 6 tradiotional powers in 1 side, seems legit.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 12:38 pm to
We're going to a 9 game schedule with 1 permanent opponent.

That's the way the wind's blowing and it will be fine.
Posted by bamamonty
Jasper,Al
Member since Feb 2014
459 posts
Posted on 3/8/14 at 12:44 pm to
SEC headquarters would probably be best in Nashville. Give all the cry babies less iratation. Bless their hearts!
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