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re: SEC Rant Court of Law - Is this a catch?

Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24458 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Tell me if that ball stays in without his right hand getting on the ball. Now tell me his right hand is controlling the ball when his left elbow hit the ground.


From this point onward, the ball moves with his right hand through the contact of the ground. The seam for the most part stays in one place. If I had to make a decision I’d say no catch. But there isn’t a point where he indisputably lost possession of the ball

This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:46 pm to
Yes. His right hand was under the ball. He controlled it to the ground. And yes a "caught" ball can touch the ground.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 12:51 pm to
It pains me to say this but yes it was a catch.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30856 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:03 pm to
The most telling thing is that you get to all the neutral parties out there and no one is disputing it as a catch.

Pretty much just Twitter accounts of Arkansas fans.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22567 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:05 pm to
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You have to control the ball before going out of bounds moron. HE DID NOT




If you are able to wrap your hand around the end of the ball, you have control of the ball.

Posted by DAWG71
Simpsonville SC
Member since Sep 2013
236 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:09 pm to
Securing the ball between your chest and the ground does not count. If it is secured while touching the ground and does not move, then you are good. This would have stood if it were called either way. No angle gave a definitive view to overturn whatever the call on the field was.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Hellmet
Member since Nov 2015
519 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

The NCAA rulebook details a number of requirements for something to be considered a catch, but these are the three main pieces. For a catch, the player:

1. Secures firm control with the hand(s) or arm(s) of a live ball in flight
before the ball touches the ground, and

2. Touches the ground in bounds with any part of his body, and then

3. Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.

4. If an Alabama receiver is involved in the replay, disregard 1, 2, and 3.. it's a catch.

5. If Alabama CB or Saftey is involved in the replay, disregard 1, 2, 3, and 4... it's not a catch.

Just looked it up on the NCAA website.



Fixed that for you.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22567 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:36 pm to
quote:



Fixed that for you.


Cool, so even by your own rules it was a catch.

Guess that settles it.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6762 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:36 pm to
Every time I watch that video I see it a little differently. Bottom line is the call on the field was going to stand. And the call on the field was solid, he was in bounds and wasn't "bobbling" it to any degree that a live eye could have possibly detected any ball movement. As we see on this thread many fans of Bama's worst rivals agree with the call. Even OP accidentally concedes that the review was correctly called by default when he states that he doesn't see evidence that it wasn't a catch. Anyone using this particular call as some sort of indication of the Bama bias is hopelessly brainwashed by their hatred or simply doesn’t understand how a video review works.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Anyone using this particular call as some sort of indication of the Bama bias is hopelessly brainwashed by their hatred

The refs earlier took a TD run from Bryce on a hold that didn't impact the play. Things happen, but when anti-Crimson glasses are off, it usually balances out over a game.

The catch was a tough call that was called a catch. Hell, even Jameson wasn't sure, he refused to toss the ball to the ref until he signaled the call.

Moving on to IB and hope to see some major defensive improvement
Posted by woodhog14
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jul 2011
897 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

If we're throwing shite around, Arkansas Wrs got away with pushing off Bama's Dbs all game.

GTFO with that bull shite. They missed 3 PI's at least against Bama.
Posted by BhamBlazeDog
Birmingham
Member since Aug 2018
3757 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

3. Maintains control of the ball


He didn't have "control" of the ball until he was out of bounds. But keep wearing the crimson glasses.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10518 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:05 pm to
No
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:07 pm to
No
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Securing the ball between you chest and the ground does not count. If it is secured while touching the ground and does not move, then you are good. This would have stood if it were called either way. No angle gave a definitive view to overturn whatever the call on the field was.



This ^
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

They missed 3 PI's at least against Bama.


They missed 3 or more against Arkansas too. That offensive pushoff that Burks did was an obvious miss.

The only thing that matters really is what the scoreboard says.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21157 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 2:38 pm to
He didn't have full control.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

That offensive pushoff that Burks did was an obvious miss.

He had a couple he got away with, which seems to be a norm for a no call for big WRs in the SEC. It's odd.
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:57 pm to
Agreed. It's been that way for a while. Mike Evans used to get some calls like that.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4696 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 7:59 pm to
no
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