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re: SEC preparing anti-oversigning legislation for June meetings
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:03 pm to ThaKaptin
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:03 pm to ThaKaptin
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Did you seriously just say that?!?!
Yep.
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Come back and talk to me when you have a serious argumant.
That's the ethical impetus for the argument and cause, FYI. The "good ole boy" network willing to do anything to win a football game, including offering schollies to kids, then rescinding them if they aren't good at certain coaches' brand of foozeball. It's not a stab at regular folk of Alabammer (particularly those at the Red Stone Arsenal with their free base program), but the fat, weird, Truman Capote talking guys who empower this kind of BS.
IMO.
Respectfully.
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Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:03 pm to smelvis
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Because white Alabama gonna do what it gonna do. Aiight? Aiight?
Why do you keep bringing race into this?
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:05 pm to I Speak As I Please
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Of course, there's always the ever present ego driven alumnus that own a company/business
who'll hire any ex-athlete as a status symbol. Most of em wont ever have to worry about employment after their playing days are over.
True.
But one of the problems that's about to start coming out, and you're already seeing discussion of this, is the long term effects of football on athletes relative to their medical bills later in lifes.
Including the ones that got rode hard on the practice team for a year or so and cut.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:09 pm to crimsonsaint
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Why do you keep bringing race into this?
See the reply just above your post.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:11 pm to I Speak As I Please
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How many of those athletic darlings actually take advantage of the opportunity and go on to graduate?
And, of those that do get their diploma, how many have degrees that have some value in the job market? Not much use for a degree in General Studies, Basket Weaving or African Cultural Studies.
Of course, there's always the ever present ego driven alumnus that own a company/business
who'll hire any ex-athlete as a status symbol. Most of em wont ever have to worry about employment after their playing days are over.
I see where you're coming from. But what would have happened to these same kids if they had never had the opportunity to play football on an athletic scholarship? Would they even be gainfully employed if they didn't have the "connections" to the school they played for?
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:16 pm to smelvis
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But one of the problems that's about to start coming out, and you're already seeing discussion of this, is the long term effects of football on athletes relative to their medical bills later in lifes.
Including the ones that got rode hard on the practice team for a year or so and cut.
You do realize that these athletes have a choice whether they ever play football for a college or not don't you?
No one is forcing them to accept a football scholarship. They can always apply for an academic scholly and never have to worry about the long term effects of having been "rode hard" on the football field.
Hell, let them attend college on an academic scholly and they can receive the same education without all the hardass practices and physical beatings they'll take playing football. Sounds simple to me.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:18 pm to smelvis
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smelvis
This guy is the biggest racist I have ever heard.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:18 pm to RT1941
Is it bad for a coach to sit a kid down and tell him he will never play a down? And tell him if he wants to play he will need to transfer. Is that kicking a kid off the team?
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:21 pm to RT1941
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You do realize that these athletes have a choice whether they ever play football for a college or not don't you?
Yep. And in return for their education, they receive a scholarship and play football. The way the system should work.
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No one is forcing them to accept a football scholarship. They can always apply for an academic scholly and never have to worry about the long term effects of having been "rode hard" on the football field.
I thought athletics was most of these kids only chance? Personally, I think the people who offer the scholarship should honor it. As long as the player is making satisfactory degree progress and not screwing up.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:23 pm to graves1
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Is it bad for a coach to sit a kid down and tell him he will never play a down? And tell him if he wants to play he will need to transfer. Is that kicking a kid off the team?
Not at all, its honesty.
However, not being able to go to any school he wants is.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:24 pm to jatebe
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This guy is the biggest racist I have ever heard.
How so, IYO?
Because I implicated a largely white, southern institution (that being the good ole boy network) largely part of the framework of oversigning?
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:25 pm to smelvis
The last guy at Alabama that complained about getting a medical scholarship was white. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:32 pm to smelvis
Haven't read this thread but why should the SEC cower to the national media? At the end of the day, the SEC should make the decision that should benefit the SEC, not placate the media's complaints.
This post was edited on 5/23/11 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:34 pm to smelvis
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I thought athletics was most of these kids only chance? Personally, I think the people who offer the scholarship should honor it. As long as the player is making satisfactory degree progress and not screwing up.
You act like the South runs on a plantation mentality. Like the "white man" is forcing these kids to play football. These kids are being "rode hard" to the detriment of their health......
For many kids, athletics is their only chance to get into a college. If they don't want to play for a certain school or coaching staff, then they aren't forced to accept the scholarship offer.
It's a choice they, along with their parents have to make regarding their future.
They also have a choice early on in their HS career ~ if they don't want to play sports to get a free college education, then they can make the grades to get an academic scholarship and get the same education. Life is all about the choices we make.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:34 pm to crimsonsaint
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The last guy at Alabama that complained about getting a medical scholarship was white. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
This isn't really about black/white. "White Alabama" is a reference to the largely white, good ole boy network that's behind most of the athletic departments of the SEC. UGA has it to, though it's starting to dissipate some, thankfully.
You know the types, the ones that'd do anything to win. TennStud or Logan Young type guys.
And FYI, on the white kids, these coaches know what they are working with. The white kids who have dads and friends and inconvenient crap like that get the medical DQs. Those dudes will talk to reporters and shat. The black kids, who haven't got some of those advantages, just get cut.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:36 pm to Tiger Authority
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Haven't read this thread but why should the media cower to the national media? At the end of the day, the SEC should make the decision that should benefit the SEC, not placate the media's complaints.
Beacuse of the ethical implications of the practice?
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:37 pm to smelvis
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Haven't read this thread but why should the media cower to the national media? At the end of the day, the SEC should make the decision that should benefit the SEC, not placate the media's complaints.
Beacuse of the ethical implications of the practice?
Can you cite something to prove your theory of racism? If not, generalized, unsubstantiated opinions from you that are completely unfounded serve no purpose and make you look foolish.
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:38 pm to smelvis
Does Richt really have yall convinced that this is why Ga is losing so much lately? 
Posted on 5/23/11 at 3:42 pm to Alahunter
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Does Richt really have yall convinced that this is why Ga is losing so much lately?
What do you mean?
This campaign started a LONG time before Richt picked up on it and dropped his blurb.
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