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Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:10 pm to the808bass
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:10 pm to the808bass
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The time out/clapping nonsense should’ve been enough to suspend the crew.
They were obviously intimidated by Kirby.
Had that not been such an egregiously horrible call/decision, the sight of Hugh chewing the ear off the side of his head while Williamson was obviously and deliberately not looking up at the world's largest TV would have been downright comic.
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:13 pm to captdalton
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It is weird how many people seem to be willing to die on this hill when a 20 second search would answer the question.
You are still very wrong. Apparently you don't understand what disconcerting means. If the offensive line is looking backwards at the QB and not set, like they were, while the QB changes the play, it couldn't be about to put the ball in play. If they did, with, or without clapping, it would have been illegal formation.
The defense can clap all they want as long as there's no imminent play.
You're dying on the hill.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:20 pm to borotiger
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You are still very wrong. Apparently you don't understand what disconcerting means. If the offensive line is looking backwards at the QB and not set, like they were, while the QB changes the play, it couldn't be about to put the ball in play. If they did, with, or without clapping, it would have been illegal formation.
The defense can clap all they want as long as there's no imminent play.
You're dying on the hill.
He’s dying on that hill because he puts being right over being honest. He, and everyone else, knows what you’re saying is correct. But since it doesn’t support the narrative they want, thy reject it.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:25 pm to borotiger
I posted videos of Steve Shaw and Mike Pereiro; Shaw the current head of college officiating and Periero the former head of NFL officiating; both saying that this season in college football the defense can not clap. Period
Kirby also thought it was a penalty. .
I am going to go with those three over random internet users.
So you are saying all three of them are wrong but you are right? That seems to be what you are saying.
Kirby also thought it was a penalty. .
I am going to go with those three over random internet users.
So you are saying all three of them are wrong but you are right? That seems to be what you are saying.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:31 pm to captdalton
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I posted videos of Steve Shaw and Mike Pereiro; Shaw the current head of college officiating and Periero the former head of NFL officiating; both saying that this season in college football the defense can not clap. Period
No, you did not. Everything said, or shown, was regarding disconcerting signals.
In your fantasy world, if the ball is set, but the offense is still in the huddle, any clap by the defense would be a penalty. That's not correct and you are an idiot.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:32 pm to Darth_Vader
Check this out. You can start at 2:00 minute mark.
Mike Pereiro Explains 2025 College Football Rule Changes
These are his words, not mine.
I trust his opinion much more than some disgruntled Auburn fans.
Mike Pereiro Explains 2025 College Football Rule Changes
These are his words, not mine.
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Defense can not clap. Period.
I trust his opinion much more than some disgruntled Auburn fans.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:36 pm to captdalton
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I trust his opinion much more than some disgruntled Auburn fans.
Every piece of evidence to support your argument involves an offensive line set. Every single one.
My God, can a smarter gump help this guy?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:39 pm to captdalton
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Check this out. You can start at 2:00 minute mark.
Mike Pereiro Explains 2025 College Football Rule Changes
These are his words, not mine.
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Defense can not clap. Period.
I trust his opinion much more than some disgruntled Auburn fans.
Point is not whether or not any Auburn players were clapping or not. Kirby was VERY, VERY clearly calling timeout, then lied about it and got a freebee.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:44 pm to Broadside Bob
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Point is not whether or not any Auburn players were clapping or not. Kirby was VERY, VERY clearly calling timeout, then lied about it and got a freebee.
Oh, Kirby for sure lied. And the defense can clap till they're happy as long as it's not in an attempt to trick the offense.
Privatedalton would argue that the defense couldn't clap even while both teams were substituting. He picks bad hills.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:49 pm to borotiger
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the defense can clap till they're happy as long as it's not in an attempt to trick the offense.
In college football, using signals or sounds that simulate the offensive snap is illegal.
• The rule: The NCAA prohibits a defensive player from using words, signals, or sounds that interfere with the offensive starting signals, including mimicking the offensive cadence.
• The specific signal: Clapping is explicitly prohibited for defensive players in college because many offenses use a clap as a silent snap signal to deal with crowd noise.
• The penalty: If the defense claps to cause an opponent to false start, the officials can enforce a 5-yard penalty for delay of game.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:50 pm to borotiger
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Every piece of evidence to support your argument involves an offensive line set. Every single one.
No, it does not. They clarified the rule for 2025 that the defense can not clap, period. You realize that before this season it was a penalty to clap in order to try to make the offense snap the ball right? But that led to ambiguity, so they clarified it that the defense can not use a clap.
And in this case, Georgia’s QB was under center anyway. But it wouldn’t matter. The defensive player clapped. This year that is a penalty even if he was just trying to get the attention of another player. That video expressly addresses that, so that tells me you didn’t watch it. You don’t want to see that you are wrong.
The rule says nothing about being set. It says the defense can not clap.
It isn’t hard to understand. Yet despite providing the rule and explanations from the top two rules experts you are unable or unwilling to grasp it.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:51 pm to captdalton
You're wrong. Goodnight
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:51 pm to borotiger
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The specific signal: Clapping is explicitly prohibited for defensive players in college because many offenses use a clap as a silent snap signal to deal with crowd noise.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:58 pm to captdalton
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The specific signal: Clapping is explicitly prohibited for defensive players in college because many offenses use a clap as a silent snap signal to deal with crowd noise.
And the Georgia offense wasn't lined up to snap when the clapping started.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:59 pm to borotiger
This was from 2023, before they tightened the rules this season to completely prohibit the defense from clapping.
Why Brian Kelly said the clapping penalties against LSU football's defense are 'ridiculous'
Why Brian Kelly said the clapping penalties against LSU football's defense are 'ridiculous'
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LSU football coach Brian Kelly isn't happy with the clapping penalties assessed against his defense the last two weeks.
Kelly, who said on Monday that he had a long conversation with SEC Coordinator of Football Officials John McDaid about these infringements, is frustrated with how a defensive player can get penalized for clapping — simulating an offensive snap on defense — no matter where they are on the field. During its 48-18 win over Auburn on Saturday, No. 19 LSU (5-2) was called for a delay of game on defense for clapping. LSU was also penalized for clapping the week before in its win against Missouri.
"I think it's ridiculous," Kelly said. "We had a safety that was clapping to our corner(back) to get his attention and we got it called.“
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:01 pm to captdalton
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The specific signal: Clapping is explicitly prohibited for defensive players in college because many offenses use a clap as a silent snap signal to deal with crowd noise.
Disconcerting is a fricking word with meaning that you need help with.
Can the defense not clap after a good play?
Can the defense not clap while substituting?
Can the defense not clap while the offense is on huddle?
And no, the QB was at least a yard from being behind Center and the Center, along with the rest of the line, was looking back at him, some out of stance.
You're simply trolling.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:06 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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And the Georgia offense wasn't lined up to snap when the clapping started.
They absolutely were lined up. Here is video of it.
Video of Auburn Player Clapping
But it doesn’t matter. This year the defense can’t clap on the field.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:18 pm to borotiger
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Disconcerting is a fricking word with meaning that you need help with.
This season clapping by the defense is considered a disconcerting signal.
I have provided you explanations from the head dude who makes, enforces, and trains officials on college football rules, FOX’ college football rules expert who used to be the head of NFL officiating, the actual NCAA rule, and an explanation of the rule.
At this point I don’t think you are able to comprehend it.
You could just say something like “I didn’t realize the rule changed this season to expressly prohibit the defense from clapping” and put the shovel down.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:20 pm to captdalton
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They absolutely were lined up. Here is video of it.
They were. And then the QB backed up, made an audible, and the defense changed in reaction while the OL wasn't set. I saw the play but thanks for posting what I was about to.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:23 pm to borotiger
So you could clearly see the Auburn defender clapping. Delay of game, 5 yard penalty.
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