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Posted on 6/8/13 at 7:55 pm to JPLSU1981
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Do you really not get it?
Big 12 fans aren't known for their academic prowess
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:02 pm to JPLSU1981
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:07 pm to buckwheat6105
Ppv games are gone. Espn owns everything now.
(Starting in 2014)
(Starting in 2014)
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:08 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:13 pm to buckwheat6105
You're making a few incorrect assumptions
#1. There will be 3 games on the SEC network every Saturday. Every Saturday there is anywhere between 7 and 14 total SEC games.
#2 ESPN owns all the games excluding CBS picks. ESPN can put these games wherever they want (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SECNW, or sell it). Therefore, ESPN can easily "manipulate" and force cable companies to pick up the SECNW, especially in the early years.
#3 SEC demand is outrageous. Obviously for footall, but even for other sports.
Bottom line: whether you want to know all the details or not, it's easy to see why the SEC network is expected to kill it and pull in massive $$$.
#1. There will be 3 games on the SEC network every Saturday. Every Saturday there is anywhere between 7 and 14 total SEC games.
#2 ESPN owns all the games excluding CBS picks. ESPN can put these games wherever they want (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, SECNW, or sell it). Therefore, ESPN can easily "manipulate" and force cable companies to pick up the SECNW, especially in the early years.
#3 SEC demand is outrageous. Obviously for footall, but even for other sports.
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Here are the average football viewership totals by conference according to Nielsen:
1. SEC – 4,447,000
2. Big Ten – 3,267,000
3. ACC – 2,650,000
4. Big 12 – 2,347,000
5. Pac-12 – 2,108,000
6. Big East – 1,884,000
Here are the average basketball viewership totals by conference according to Nielsen:
1. Big Ten – 1,496,000
2. ACC – 1,247,000
3. SEC – 1,222,000
4. Big 12 – 1,069,000
5. Big East – 1,049,000
6. Pac-12 – 783,000
Bottom line: whether you want to know all the details or not, it's easy to see why the SEC network is expected to kill it and pull in massive $$$.
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:17 pm to JPLSU1981
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:17 pm to buckwheat6105
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Look again. Currently, ESPN does not own third tier rights....specifically the one PPV game each school has the option to produce. TigerVision, for example, is not owned by ESPN.
They will have everyone's third tier rights. No more Gatorvision or SunSports for us Gators.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:20 pm to buckwheat6105
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ESPN is ONLY picking up 14 additional games: the 14 PPV games currently owned by the respective member institution.
That's irrelevent. It will merely add to ESPN's already-overwhelming inventory of SEC games.
ESPN has all the leverage/inventory to force the cable companies' hands. And espn - leveraging the massive public demand for said inventory - will win.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:26 pm to buckwheat6105
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This turn me back to my point: starting in the 2014/15 athletic season, ESPN is ONLY picking up 14 additional games: the 14 PPV games currently owned by the respective member institution
The point that you aren't getting is that ESPN will put games that this year will be put on ESPN, ESPN2, or ESPNU on the SECN instead. So they can put games like TAMU/OM on the SECN, instead of it being put on ESPN2 or ESPNU.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:37 pm to buckwheat6105
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Fact: it wasn't until a year or so ago that that the network achieved 100% distribution in the city of Austin
False. It still doesn't have 100% distribution in Austin.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It has a 13% carrage rate in Austin 
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:38 pm to JPLSU1981
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This post was edited on 6/9/13 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:43 pm to buckwheat6105
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ESPN can't afford to put conference games on the SEC Network and third tier games on ESPN/ESPN2
ESPN has enough inventory from other conferences that they don't have to put the SEC 3rd tier games on any of the other ESPN channels. If they put TAMU/OM on the SECN, they can just put an ACC, B1G, Pac 12, or Big 12 game on which ever ESPN channel that the SEC game would normally be on.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:45 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:46 pm to buckwheat6105
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In a sense I agree that it's irrelevant: big deal that ESPN is getting these 14 games and if I was the CEO of a cable company I'd say the same thing. My thought, as the CEO at Cox (for example) is "why would I carry the SEC Network when ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPNPlus(current SEC Network) is already carrying virtually every game except for 14 crummy games?
what the hell are you talking about?
ESPN has already said they are going to put 45 football games each year on SECN to start. It isn't 14 crummy games. ESPN can put the second best SEC game of the day on SECN if they so choose.
You need to stop comparing SECN to LHN. The proper comparison is to the BTN which has proven to be very succesful.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:48 pm to buckwheat6105
LHN has no inventory, that's why it's failed.
SEC nw obviously (even tho u don't get it) won't have that problem with 3+ SEC football games a day.
SEC nw obviously (even tho u don't get it) won't have that problem with 3+ SEC football games a day.
This post was edited on 6/8/13 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 6/8/13 at 8:59 pm to buckwheat6105
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Then this makes my point even more impactful: if the LHN has a mere 13% in their own city, why assume the SEC Network will be a huge success?
because the Big 10 Network has been a success and that's far more like what we're going to have than the LHN is.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:04 pm to JPLSU1981
Longhorn Network is one school and that is Texas. They are hurting for content. I mean I get the channel on Uverse and some of the stuff they show is terrible. Who wants to watch lectures on scientific debates. To make things worse their football, basketball, and baseball teams are all in the toilet. Well football is half decent but you get my point. Sec Network is televising all 14 schools. Bigger pool to draw content from. You can always have revelant sports content from one of the member schools instead of televising 3 rate public access crap ie Longhorn Network.
Posted on 6/8/13 at 9:06 pm to BamaHater
Until now in addition to the PPV games schools had the option to have once a year, there where also games televised locally on CSS, Sun Sports, Fox Sports.
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