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re: SEC football standings since expansion, and in this decade

Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by LSUfanatic60
ocean springs ms
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:11 pm to
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woopiginaustin
You have a serious man crush Mcfadden and Jones... ...reality check they are gone
Posted by woopiginaustin
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Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:14 pm to
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You have a serious man crush Mcfadden and Jones... ...reality check they are gone


But their .500 SEC record and 0-2 Bowl record lives forever!!!!!


This post was edited on 5/24/09 at 5:15 pm
Posted by LSUfanatic60
ocean springs ms
Member since Feb 2009
1961 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:17 pm to
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But their .500 SEC record and 0-2 Bowl record lives forever!!!!!
good thing they have those stats to fall back on
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:24 pm to
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tell me who our Heismen candiate was. LSU's biggest star was Dorsey.


For one what do you mean by championship years? Do you mean the decade or just 2001,2003,2007?

The Heisman is overrated since it can only be won by basically a QB or RB.

2007 Stars:
Dorsey
Steltz
Highsmith
C. Jackson
C. Jones
Holliday(mainly high profile because of speed)
*The others were getting some type of All-American talk(1st,2nd,or freshman team)

2003:
Lavalais
Wilkerson
Vincent
Green
Clayton
Landry
Peterman

2001:
The Great Josh Reed
Posted by LSUfanatic60
ocean springs ms
Member since Feb 2009
1961 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:30 pm to
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The Heisman is overrated since it can only be won by basically a QB or RB
we agree on this. and the players you mentioned were great players not stars. which proves my point LSU fielded great teams.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:36 pm to
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the players you mentioned were great players not stars.


What is considered a star? I tried to only list the players that got national recognition those years in some form such as award lists and All-American teams. I think it is wrong to just say LSU won the championships without stars.

There were more players that were on all conference teams.

To win a championship you have to field great teams obviously. Almost all great teams have stars. Are you trying to say someone like Craig Steltz is not a star even though he was an All-American.

Most people considered Andre Smith a star. He was an All-American.
This post was edited on 5/24/09 at 5:40 pm
Posted by LSUfanatic60
ocean springs ms
Member since Feb 2009
1961 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 5:48 pm to
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What is considered a star?
Im talking about the Mcfadden, Bush, Cadillac types that has the media wetting there pants over. the ones that get tickets to NY at the end of the season. like the saying goes "you dont come to LSU to win Heisman's you come to win championships" i love that saying
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:05 pm to
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Cadillac


Did Cadillac get invited to NY for the Heisman? I am just saying we have had a shite ton of stars. We have a ton of running backs that primarily suffer from sharing the load.

The one thing we can say is that we have won three championships with NFL QBs just not the high draft pick ones. I think you are selling some of our talent short or you have a very high weird standard for a star.
Posted by ericberryistheman
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2009
865 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:08 pm to
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We've finished 17 seasons now, and here's how it looks:

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Tennessee 101-37-0 (2) .732

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5. Tennessee 47-25 .653


So Phat Phil starts 54-12 (or better since 3 of the 1992 losses were Johnny Majors) in the first 8 years and finishes the last nine years at 47-25. I can't believe the AD let it slide that far. Everyone could see it after 2002.
Posted by ericberryistheman
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2009
865 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:14 pm to
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tennessee: 50 drafted (8 1st rd, 10 2nd rd)


This drives me nuts. The most picks in either of the first two rounds and the most picks overall and all Phat Phil could come up with is a few losses to LSU in the SECCG.
Posted by LSUfanatic60
ocean springs ms
Member since Feb 2009
1961 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:22 pm to
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Posted by LSUfanatic60
ocean springs ms
Member since Feb 2009
1961 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 6:23 pm to
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lsutiger2486
i think its safe to say we agree on everything except defanition of a star so ill just leave it at that
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 8:25 am to
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1. Florida 56-19 (3) .747
2. Georgia 53-21 (2) .716
3. Louisiana State 53-22 (3) .707
Before last year, LSU was the team of the decade.
Posted by Bert Lyons 716
Member since Jan 2006
1528 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:13 am to
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You give ANY OTHER TEAM those individuals and that team goes over .500




I think a team having Hillis, Jones, McFadden, and Monk on offense should have brought home some serious team hardware.


You have to have 22 solid starters pus 22 good backups. Arky has never had the depth to be a SEC contender. A few stars don't make a great team.

You must be a piccalo player.
Posted by AuburnCPA
Member since May 2008
18843 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:17 am to
Kige, where you at? Kentucky sucks
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 11:35 am to
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Kentucky sucks
17 SEC victories in a fricking DECADE? And it's a state school!
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/26/09 at 11:47 am to
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Since expansion

2000-2008

You didn't want to do one from 92-99?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 12:03 pm to
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You didn't want to do one from 92-99?
1. Florida 60-8 (4) .882
2. Tennessee 54-12 (2) .818
3. Alabama 42-24 (2) .636
4. Auburn 34-28-2 .547
5. Georgia 34-29-1 .539
6. Mississippi State 32-31-1 .508
7. Arkansas 29-33-2 .469
8. Mississippi 27-37 .422
9. Louisiana State 26-37-1 .414
10. Kentucky 21-43 .328
11. South Carolina 19-44-1 .305
12. Vanderbilt 10-54 .156

Interdivision
East 77
West 71
Tie 2

I'll add to the OP as well.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 12:16 pm to
3. Alabama 42-24 (2) .636

I'm guessing that includes the 8 games we had to forfeit in '93 per NCAA in the loss column.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 5/26/09 at 12:30 pm to
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I'm guessing that includes the 8 games we had to forfeit in '93 per NCAA in the loss column.
Six "wins" and a "tie" (to Tennessee) are indeed included in the loss column.

Step One of winning a football game: field a team of eligible players. Sorry, Gumps.
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