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re: SEC Baseball History: Chart of Champions
Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:27 pm to CockRocket
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:39 pm to JDM1992
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Florida State.
Poor guys. SC has half the appearances and more CWS wins than FSU.
If I'm not mistaken I'd dare put Clemson ahead of UNC on the basis of more CWS appearances with 0 titles.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:48 pm to JimMorrison
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also, LSU won all, but one of their NCs I believe, when the championship game format was still just 1 game instead of a 3 game series.
so kudos go to LSU winning that first game where we fricked up and lost while it was in that format.
So your saying that until about about a decade ago, none of the championships are really legit and basically college baseball began in 2003? Nice spin, but winning the college world series is winning the college world series no matter what decade it happened. Yea it's nice what they did with the finals being 2 out of 3 10 years ago, but that doesn't make the past history any less legitimate whatsoever.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:51 pm to JDM1992
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1. Southern Cal
2. Texas
3. Arizona State
4. Arizona
5. Miami
LSU Has the same or more Championships than all but Southern Cal so no. Maybe if LSU had dropped off never to win the CWS again after 2000 and maybe if LSU didn't have some of the nicest facilities in the country but LSU has all that and is also tied for second in CWS NC.
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:52 pm to bigbowe80
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:59 pm to bubbz
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They only play 1 sport as far as they are concerned.
That is simply not true. We at the Capstone are also participate in gymnastics, softball, and both men's and women's golf.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 1:59 pm to JDM1992
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It's more about having decades and decades of success rather than just winning championships. In football, Miami isn't a better program than Texas. Pittsburgh isn't better than Nebraska
Miami also has medicore facilities with little fan support at their games (Member that one game this past season they literally had several hundred people at dolphin stadium?). They also have had little success outside of their Championship seasons of relevancy.
LSU has had consistant elite success going on 3 decades (since the mid 80's), the top attendance in the country going on 2 straight decades and won a CWS championship less than 3 years ago. Not to mention some of the nicest baseball facilities in all college baseball. If that isn't consistantacy in a program, what would you consider and how long would it take to achieve that level?
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:03 pm to JDM1992
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It's more about having decades and decades of success rather than just winning championships.
What about So.Cal as a current program? Twice as many titles as the next team, #1 in CWS wins but haven't done anything in years. Haven't made it to the CWS since 2001, haven't even made the NCAA tourny in 7 years, had the 1 title in the late '90s but that has been its only one since the '70s. Historically its not even a question who is #1 but as a current program where would So.Cal go in the grand scheme of things?
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:06 pm to bigbowe80
Don't feed the troll....
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:13 pm to theGarnetWay
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Not in a conference as deep as the SEC they aren't.
True. The scheduling model needs to be revisited in baseball at some point to address this. It's always driven me crazy that we played a full round-robin minus ONE team. Minus 3 teams is an even larger discrepancy. I'd be good with adding mid-week home and homes with the other 3 teams to take the total schedule to 36 games...
MSU gets the following from the east this year:
@ #8 Kentucky
#24 Florida
@ #3 Vanderbilt
#7 South Carolina
We miss #29 Georgia and Tennessee, Missouri(which both fall outside the top 40).
This is why you won't see any MSU fans talking smack about winning the conference this year even though we think it's quite possible that we could be good enough to compete at that level this year...
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:21 pm to engie
LSU was @KY @UF and @SC last season.
This year they all come here.
Miss St is definitely good enough to compete. They have a tough conference schedule though. As I said earlier, if you win the conference regular season, you would have earned it.
Sad thing about St is you aren't even factoring in Arkansas, LSU, and Ole Miss. Bottom line is SEC is a stacked baseball conference.
This year they all come here.
Miss St is definitely good enough to compete. They have a tough conference schedule though. As I said earlier, if you win the conference regular season, you would have earned it.
Sad thing about St is you aren't even factoring in Arkansas, LSU, and Ole Miss. Bottom line is SEC is a stacked baseball conference.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:22 pm to theGarnetWay
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Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:33 pm to bigbowe80
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So your saying that until about about a decade ago, none of the championships are really legit and basically college baseball began in 2003? Nice spin, but winning the college world series is winning the college world series no matter what decade it happened. Yea it's nice what they did with the finals being 2 out of 3 10 years ago, but that doesn't make the past history any less legitimate whatsoever
no, I wasn't delegitimizing the titles. I was comparing LSU's title appearances to ours since we have the same number of them.
All I was saying was that LSU won the majority of their titles when it was 1 game where we have done better since it's moved to a 3 game series (even though in our NC wins, we didn't need the 3 games). We will never know if USC could have made a comeback when we lost the first game and possibly have more NCs.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:37 pm to theGarnetWay
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its only one since the '70s.
So Cal was truly a dynasty back then, but they are shite now. I wouldn't even put So Cal in the discussion of current top programs.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:41 pm to JimMorrison
When was the last time USC even made a CWS? I think it's been since the 90s.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:43 pm to JimMorrison
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So Cal was truly a dynasty back then
Scholarship limitations killed them. They reportedly had 25 back when most schools had 0.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:44 pm to bubbz
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When was the last time USC even made a CWS? I think it's been since the 90s.
I didn't look this up, but theGarnetWay posted this:
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Haven't made it to the CWS since 2001, haven't even made the NCAA tourny in 7 years, had the 1 title in the late '90s
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:44 pm to bubbz
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When was the last time USC even made a CWS? I think it's been since the 90s.
2001. They have been to the CWS 4 times since 1978.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:46 pm to TigerCub
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2001. They have been to the CWS 4 times since 1978.
Well that pretty much negates what the Bama troll said about decades of dominance, considering USC hasn't been dominant in baseball in 3 decades.
Posted on 1/15/13 at 2:48 pm to bubbz
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Well that pretty much negates what the Bama troll said about decades of dominance, considering USC hasn't been dominant in baseball in 3 decades.
yeah he didn't know what he was talking about.
all he was looking at was championships
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