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re: Scheduling Southern Miss
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:42 pm to cardswinagain
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Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:42 pm to DaleDenton
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Its the truth, your fans were throwing empty whiskey bottles on to the field.
Going to need some proof of that. I've never heard that before.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Going to need some proof of that. I've never heard that before.
It wasn't the last game played, but 2nd or 3rd. Broyles had commented on it talking about how he and Vaught decided it was time to put the series on hiatus before things continued to get out of hand between the fan bases.
It was sometime in the early to mid 60s, just in time for you to avoid two decades of straight losses at a Ms. State v LSU level.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:45 pm to DaleDenton
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It was sometime in the early to mid 60s, just in time for you to avoid two decades of straight losses at a Ms. State v LSU level.
If you think Vaught would have been dominated by Arkansas, you're sorely mistaken.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:46 pm to DaleDenton
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It was sometime in the early to mid 60s, just in time for you to avoid two decades of straight losses at a Ms. State v LSU level.
You have gone full retard.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:48 pm to Henry Jones Jr
There was a time period where Arkansas backed out of the series because ole miss was winning every time. How does it make you feel that arky best coach ever frank broyles was never able to beat ole miss? I think he was 0-6. Wasn't able to win a title until he dropped ole miss off the schedule. This was back during both ole miss' and Arkansas' hay day.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:52 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If you think Vaught would have been dominated by Arkansas, you're sorely mistaken.
We were good Broyles-Holtz-Hatfield.
Ole Miss dropped off a cliff after Vaught retired.
The series record is iffy as of a couple years ago the media guides for the schools listed different wins totals for each school over a game where a missed field goal was counted as good, I think that game was played in the late 50s early 60s.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:54 pm to mkh251
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could not agree more; same thing with auburn and bama not scheduling Troy, big boy programs need to man up and prove they're the class of their state; if you cant beat home-grown competition you certainly cant claim to be the best in that state
Well... there's two sides to that. A&M is catching all sorts of grief for scheduling FBS teams Rice, SMU, and UTEP this year.
I get what you're saying and A&M could still (if both parties agreed) play Baylor, TCU, and Tech and have a more respectable schedule. But I'd put Troy in the same class as UTEP or Rice. You can either criticize 'Bama for playing Troy or criticize 'Bama for not playing Troy.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:54 pm to Rebelfan1985
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There was a time period where Arkansas backed out of the series because ole miss was winning every time. How does it make you feel that arky best coach ever frank broyles was never able to beat ole miss? I think he was 0-6. Wasn't able to win a title until he dropped ole miss off the schedule. This was back during both ole miss' and Arkansas' hay day.
No, the series was dropped as a mutual agreement between Broyles and Vaught because it was getting out of hand between the fan bases. Fans getting into fist fights, Ole Miss fans chunking empty bottles at Arkansas players, etc.
Since you are so good at finding articles from the 80s, find the one where Broyles addressed all of this and raising concern about the series picking back up between us when we joined the SEC...
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:55 pm to RTR America
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You gain nothing for beating them and lose everything for losing to them
I've never understood this, couldn't that apply to EVERY OOC game vs non-BCS teams?
What does Bama have to gain by playing these teams?:
Colorado State
Georgia State
Chattanooga
If you're scared, just say you're scared.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:56 pm to finestfirst79
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Well... there's two sides to that. A&M is catching all sorts of grief for scheduling FBS teams Rice, SMU, and UTEP this year.
I get what you're saying and A&M could still (if both parties agreed) play Baylor, TCU, and Tech and have a more respectable schedule. But I'd put Troy in the same class as UTEP or Rice. You can either criticize 'Bama for playing Troy or criticize 'Bama for not playing Troy.
You are getting criticized because your OOC schedule consists of only schools like Rice, SMU, and UTEP.
If you were to replace any one of those with a BCS conference team (even if they are not that good like Kansas, for example) you wouldn't be getting as much grief.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 2:56 pm to DaleDenton
Broyles= Vaught's bitch 
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:05 pm to Rebelfan1985
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If you were to replace any one of those with a BCS conference team (even if they are not that good like Kansas, for example) you wouldn't be getting as much grief.
I mostly agree (though I think SMU would stomp Kansas) and I didn't mean to imply I'm defending A&M's schedule. It's ridiculous. I think it will be another 2 or more years before A&M plays any Big 12 teams, though - too many hurt feelings.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:09 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I've never understood this, couldn't that apply to EVERY OOC game vs non-BCS teams?
What does Bama have to gain by playing these teams?:
Colorado State
Georgia State
Chattanooga
If you're scared, just say you're scared.
Because those teams couldn't legitimately gain any ground on an SEC school dumbass.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:12 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Because those teams couldn't legitimately gain any ground on an SEC school dumbass.
Yeah, its the same playing Boise, ULL(next year), USM or any of the other traditionally good non-BCS schools or a team like Hawaii when Jones had them clicking versus Colorado State, Georgia State, and Chattanooga.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:13 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you're scared, just say you're scared.
So true...we have to be the brave one's in this state. It is our burden. Muffin has decided to vanquish the coast trash.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:16 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Because those teams couldn't legitimately gain any ground on an SEC school dumbass.
I wasn't talking to you, shithead, I was talking to a fan of a team that's NOT afraid of Southern Miss "gaining ground" on them. They're just afraid of losing to them.
I know why Ole Miss won't play USM, they're afraid of being exposed as the third best program in their state.
Just shut up, sit down, and let the big boys talk football.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:17 pm to DaleDenton
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Ole Miss benefited from the series being cancelled
Arkansas doesn't have a National Title in 1964 if the series is not dropped. Pigs benefited the most from the mutual dropped series. Here is broyles' results vs ole miss
1970-01-01 Arkansas Ole Miss L22 - 27
Coach: Frank Broyles Notes: New Orleans-LA - Sugar Bowl
1963-01-01 Arkansas Ole Miss L13 - 17
Coach: Frank Broyles Notes: New Orleans-LA - Sugar Bowl
1961-09-23 Ole Miss Arkansas L0 - 16
Coach: Frank Broyles Notes: Jackson-MS
1960-10-22 Arkansas Ole Miss L7 - 10
Coach: Frank Broyles Notes: Little Rock-AR
1959-10-24 Arkansas Ole Miss L0 - 28
Coach: Frank Broyles Notes: Memphis-TN Neutral
1958-10-25 Arkansas Ole Miss L12 - 14
Coach: Frank Broyles Notes: Little Rock-AR
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:17 pm to DaleDenton
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Yeah, its the same playing Boise, ULL(next year), USM or any of the other traditionally good non-BCS schools or a team like Hawaii when Jones had them clicking versus Colorado State, Georgia State, and Chattanooga.
USM is no threat to recruiting against Arkansas. They aren't really against Ole Miss or State but by beating us, they could use that against us during in-state recruiting. Would beating us likely change any recruits minds? Probably not, but why give them the chance and risk that it might? Plus you're opening yourself up for the embarrassment of losing to a 2nd tier program in your own state.
Why doesn't Arky play Arkansas State? It's obvious y'all are scared to.
Posted on 7/11/13 at 3:18 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I know why Ole Miss won't play USM, they're afraid of being exposed as the third best program in their state.
Please, in no way can you rank Ole Miss "third best" when the options also include Ms. State and Southern Miss.
Now if you want to make the argument of Ole Miss being second best to USM, there is certainly enough data to back your claim, but "third best" is just be ridiculous.
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