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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:17 pm
Ain't over, and will soon come to a head.

SI.com

Two of the cases were referred to the NCAA’s recently formed Independent Accountability Review Process (IARP), which has been heavily criticized for being an inefficient endeavor that is marred by duplicated effort, inexperienced personnel and bloated billable hours. The other two have gone through the traditional NCAA peer review route—itself a laborious and frustrating process. An update on the four:

North Carolina State, which was the first school implicated in the Southern District of New York’s probe to have its case referred to the IARP back in the first half of 2020, completed its infractions hearing Aug. 9 and 10. Per timelines for traditional infractions cases, a ruling is expected soon. The fate of the Wolfpack—and former head coach Mark Gottfried—will be closely watched by schools and coaches further down the pipeline, since there are commonalities in many of the cases and this could set a precedent.

LSU, which has been embroiled in one of the highest-profile (and most contentious) cases, is nearing delivery of a notice of allegations (NOA) from the IARP’s Complex Case Unit, sources say. However, there may still be additional interviews to be done, which could alter the timeline for delivery of that NOA and its contents. The case already has been mired in discussion of whether football violations should be considered separately from the men’s basketball allegations.

Oklahoma State’s appeal of a postseason ban is another instance where closure is anticipated soon, sources say. Coach Mike Boynton recently told The Oklahoman that it is “unfathomable” to still be waiting for a resolution when the appeal hearing transpired during the 2020–21 basketball season. A ruling on the school’s argument to be penalized at a lesser level than the Level I allegation lodged against former assistant Lamont Evans also could foreshadow what happens in other cases. In a case that went through the traditional NCAA peer review process rather than the IARP, the Cowboys were banned from the 2020–21 postseason, but their appeal allowed the team to participate. If their appeal is overturned, it is presumed that the ban would be enforced for this upcoming season.

And Auburn has completed its NCAA Committee on Infractions hearing, sources say, with a ruling expected this calendar year. The school has not formally acknowledged receipt of a notice of allegations or divulged its contents but voluntarily withheld its men’s basketball program from postseason play in 2020–21—an unmistakable indication that the NOA contained serious charges. Coach Bruce Pearl, who received a three-year show cause penalty for violations when he was at Tennessee and is now on his second journey through the major infractions process, participated in the hearing, sources say.

Other SDNY-related infractions cases that went to the IARP and are still winding their way through the system, with rulings that probably won’t come until after the 2021–22 season, include Kansas, Louisville and Arizona. SDNY-related cases involving Alabama, South Carolina, Creighton and USC were previously resolved with minor sanctions. The IARP also is working on a Memphis infractions case that is not tied to the federal corruption probe but could carry significant sanctions.

From early in this long process, which began when the FBI announced its investigation of the sport in September 2017, six cases distinguished themselves as having the highest risk of major sanctions for the involved schools: NC State, Kansas, Auburn, Louisville, Arizona and LSU. The first wave of those now are reaching a critical juncture.

After NCAA enforcement investigators had to sit on the sideline during the federal trials, the NC State case was first on deck and appeared to be on track for a relatively swift resolution. The NCAA issued its notice of allegations in July 2019, in a case centered on payments from Adidas bag man TJ Gassnola to the family of star Wolfpack recruit Dennis Smith Jr., with Gottfried and former assistant Orlando Early both being named in the allegations. But that case wound up being diverted to the IARP, to the dismay of several involved parties, due to contentious disagreements over the charges.

That, and the COVID-19 pandemic, slowed the case significantly. An amended notice of allegations from the Complex Case Unit wasn’t delivered to NC State until Feb. 1 of this year. Six months later, the hearing was held in front of the Independent Review Panel. Now a ruling is imminent.

The LSU case may be the most heated of them all, given the direct tie-in of coach Will Wade and the anger in basketball circles over Wade’s continued employment. Wade was caught on a federal wiretap in 2017 talking to aspiring agent Christian Dawkins about a “strong-arse offer” to land recruit Javonte Smart. Wade was suspended in March 2019 after refusing to meet with school officials, and his job appeared in jeopardy then. But Wade agreed to an amended contract that included language giving the school latitude to fire him for cause if he is charged with a major violation—not necessarily found guilty.

Those charges could be imminent, depending on what is included in the anticipated NCAA notice of allegations. But Wade has shown remarkable survival instincts. Several people within the college sports industry noted this week that national champion football coach Ed Orgeron was forced out of his job, while Wade continues on.

The LSU case was sent to the IARP nearly 13 months ago, on Sept. 23, 2020. There has been a flurry of communication between LSU and the investigative bodies over the last eight months. The details are unknown, but the case timeline provides hints: There are mentions of “discovery issues,” “disputes” and the delivery of documents. Beyond the continual back-and-forth with Wade’s lawyer, one of the primary points of contention is whether the case would proceed with both football and men’s basketball investigations combined, or in a “bifurcated” fashion with the two separated. A lack of institutional control allegation could be tied to the outcome of those deliberations.

It’s worth remembering that one facet of the IARP is the absence of an appeal process. Which means there should be less chance of the NC State and LSU cases lingering on the way Oklahoma State’s has for more than a year after the initial ruling was delivered in June 2020.

The Auburn case began with former assistant Chuck Person being charged with and convicted of accepting bribes to steer pro prospects to an agent and financial adviser. Person was fired, but the case clearly has not been as narrow in scope as those at two other schools where assistant coaches took bribes: USC and Oklahoma State. Where exactly the investigation has gone beyond Person remains unclear, since Auburn has refused to release its notice of allegations, but the full story should become known in the coming weeks or months.

Posted by LouisvilleKat
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:20 pm to
but its Forde though
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:21 pm to
You missed the Bruce Pearl interview yesterday. It's over, has been since it self-imposed sanctions last year.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:21 pm to
Just make an example out of Wade and LSU and let’s move on.

Agreed?
Posted by Jumpinjack
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:23 pm to
:-)
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Those charges could be imminent, depending on what is included in the anticipated NCAA notice of allegations.


"could be" and "depending" seriously, does USAToday and SI just keep rehashing the same stupid stuff before every BB season?



quote:

Just make an example out of Wade and LSU and let’s move on.

Agreed?


For what exactly?
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:25 pm to
tFlagship shining tBeacon of honor and cleanliness amongst all the cheating rabble per the usual.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Just make an example out of Wade and LSU and let’s move on.

Agreed?




Dikie V can suck a dick
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

For what exactly?
Paying to get recruits to come underachieve in front of a petulant fan base that doesn’t show up for basketball. I thought that was understood.
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Paying to get recruits to come underachieve in front of a petulant fan base that doesn’t show up for basketball. I thought that was understood.



Proof please?

LSU fans waiting for proof of paying recruits


everyone pays recruits with NIL... Next....
Posted by csgau
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:33 pm to
yet C Sexton admitted taking money and updykes semen brother Emmert takes no action.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Beyond the continual back-and-forth with Wade’s lawyer, one of the primary points of contention is whether the case would proceed with both football and men’s basketball investigations combined, or in a “bifurcated” fashion with the two separated. A lack of institutional control allegation could be tied to the outcome of those deliberations.


Forde out here releasing this shite to frick with LSU’s coaching search.

He’s such a twat.
Posted by LMfan
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:38 pm to
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Wade was caught on a federal wiretap in 2017 talking to aspiring agent Christian Dawkins about a “strong-arse offer” to land recruit Javonte Smart.


Smart who was cleared immediately by the LSU compliance department and the NCAA and continued to play out his career?

Throw the book at Wade!
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

WDE24


Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Proof please?


I’m just going from What Jamal Adam’s says about y’all

quote:

On Wednesday night, my roommate and I went to the LSU men’s basketball team’s final home game against Tennessee. It was the dreaded 6 p.m. start, and when I walked in 5 minutes before tip-off, fans were nowhere to be found. By halftime, it was a more respectable half-full (or half-empty) PMAC. But once LSU went down 62-44 with eight and a half minutes to go, the fans there picked up and started heading for the exits. The Tigers ended up going down to the Volunteers, 78-63, but it was Adams who made the headlines postgame. He took to Twitter to express his disappointment in the fans leaving early, saying “I can’t hold my tongue. LSU fans show no loyalty. You expect so much from us athletes, but won’t stay and support throughout the whole game.”
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted by FreddieMac
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Smart who was cleared immediately by the LSU compliance department and the NCAA and continued to play out his career?



Bingo, give the man a cookie. "Caught" on wire tap is hilarious. The strong-arse offer was an education and chance to play for LSU.

Besides, Wade met with everyone already, see, its all good...
Posted by FreddieMac
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

On Wednesday night, my roommate and I went to the LSU men’s basketball team’s final home game against Tennessee. It was the dreaded 6 p.m. start, and when I walked in 5 minutes before tip-off, fans were nowhere to be found. By halftime, it was a more respectable half-full (or half-empty) PMAC. But once LSU went down 62-44 with eight and a half minutes to go, the fans there picked up and started heading for the exits. The Tigers ended up going down to the Volunteers, 78-63, but it was Adams who made the headlines postgame. He took to Twitter to express his disappointment in the fans leaving early, saying “I can’t hold my tongue. LSU fans show no loyalty. You expect so much from us athletes, but won’t stay and support throughout the whole game.”


How is that proof of something that would have you "throw" the book at Wade and LSU?
Posted by Nitro Express
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

yet C Sexton admitted taking money and updykes semen brother Emmert takes no action.


Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:50 pm to
I thought you wanted proof of underachieving for a petulant fan base that doesn’t show up for basketball. The paying recruits is pretty open and shut.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 2:52 pm to
Like how he ignores Kansas which is the worst
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