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S&P+ Rankings (post-Week 8)

Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:23 pm
S&P+ Rankings (post-week 8)

2. Alabama
4. Georgia

12. Auburn
19. Mississippi State
29. LSU

59. Florida
60. Texas A&M
63. South Carolina

76. Ole Miss
78. Missouri

89. Vanderbilt
90. Arkansas
91. Kentucky
95. Tennessee
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by LSUBeaux88
New York
Member since Sep 2015
1055 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:24 pm to
Missouri looking real relevant....
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:25 pm to
Link says UGA is 4
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9400 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:25 pm to
So OSU is number 1 because the beat a bunch of shitty teams by a large margin?
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

So OSU is number 1 because the beat a bunch of shitty teams by a large margin?


You can read the website if you want a breakdown of how S&P+ calculates their averages. It's been explained in those posts about 1,000 times.

But the easy answer to your question is no.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9400 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:32 pm to
Tl, dr
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

Tl, dr


Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

29. LSU



Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12112 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

S&P+ Rankings


Might as well not have these rankings if a 6-1 team is number 1 with no quality wins and 1 quality loss.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9400 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:02 pm to
They get the benefit in this type of ranking system because playing shitty teams makes you offense and defense look better than they really are.

Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1126 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:04 pm to
Isn't it supposedly adjusted for that kind of stuff?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

They get the benefit in this type of ranking system because playing shitty teams makes you offense and defense look better than they really are.


Also not how these work.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Isn't it supposedly adjusted for that kind of stuff?


He doesn't know. The description of the system was too long so he didn't read.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9400 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:29 pm to
You post was too long to read when I already knew the answer.

Look at the offensive metrics they use and tell me how teams don't benefit from playing shitty teams. Use your brain for a minute. I know that's hard as a Bama fan, but just try.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Look at the offensive metrics they use and tell me how teams don't benefit from playing shitty teams. Use your brain for a minute. I know that's hard as a Bama fan, but just try.


The performance is specifically performance adjusted and specifically does not include garbage time stats.

You can argue how the formulas are made and whether too much or too little weight is given to certain areas, but those things are inarguable facts.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9400 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:38 pm to
I'm not talking about garbage time stats.

I'm talking about the criteria on which offense and defense are based and how when you play bad teams you will be over ranked. Which is directly evidenced by OSU being ranked number one.

Posted by SabanIsAGod
Jackson
Member since Oct 2009
3880 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:38 pm to
Here is a metric for you, Alabama is going to kick 100% of Georgia's arse in Atlanta
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9400 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:41 pm to
Maybe so, maybe not.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

I'm talking about the criteria on which offense and defense are based and how when you play bad teams you will be over ranked. Which is directly evidenced by OSU being ranked number one.


Individual stats against bad teams are adjusted for the team they are playing. Averaging 8.8 yards per carry against Florida International is discounted heavily compared to averaging 8.8 yards per carry against Michigan.
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