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Saban vs Bryant
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:39 pm
It is 6 to 6 right now. But how many titles would Saban have under the system Bryant won his 6 titles ?
This would include the Bowl Alignment match ups (ie SEC-Sugar).
This would include the Bowl Alignment match ups (ie SEC-Sugar).
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:39 pm to Irons Puppet
Saban eats Bears for lunch.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:41 pm to Irons Puppet
Saban has already passed the Bear.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:41 pm to Irons Puppet
Imagine if Saban could have 150 players on his squad. Most of them that could start at other P5 schools???
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:41 pm to Irons Puppet
And being able to have unlimited scholarships? He’d probably win it every year. Seriously.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:46 pm to Irons Puppet
Tough to say
I mean everyone operates under the same rules in Bryant’s day.....Bryant was just better and more cutthroat same as Saban toady.
Both would have been successful in each other’s eras.....football is still football
I mean everyone operates under the same rules in Bryant’s day.....Bryant was just better and more cutthroat same as Saban toady.
Both would have been successful in each other’s eras.....football is still football
Posted on 1/9/18 at 6:56 pm to Irons Puppet
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It is 6 to 6 right now. But how many titles would Saban have under the system Bryant won his 6 titles ?
saban with a scholarship limit of 105?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:05 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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Imagine if Saban could have 150 players on his squad. Most of them that could start at other P5 schools???
While I think Saban has passed the Bear, and did so in a much more difficult era, I've always found this argument lacking. Every coach had that same "advantage," which pretty much badly undercut it as, well, an advantage
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:07 pm to Irons Puppet
2003-Two loss LSU would not have won it
2009-Undefeated, but Texas was also undefeated and would have been playing in the Cotton Bowl. Who would have won the vote if both were undefeated ? (1)
2011-LSU would have played in the Sugar and OK St would have played in the Orange. My guess is it still would have been LSU-Bama in the Sugar (2)
2012-Bama would have been in the Sugar, but would ND have played Bama or K State in the Orange. And would OSU have slipped in even after being on probation ? (3)
2013: AU to the Sugar and FSU to the Orange to Play Baylor or Bama. If they had beaten FSU and AU lost, then maybe he could have won it that year.
2014: Bama in the Sugar and FSU to the Orange to play TCU or Baylor.
2015: Clemson to the Orange to play OU, and Bama to the Sugar to play Iowa or OSU.
2016: Bama to the Sugar to play Penn St or Michigan. (4)
2017: Would not be in conversation.
So, I have it 6 to 4 in Bryant's favor.
2009-Undefeated, but Texas was also undefeated and would have been playing in the Cotton Bowl. Who would have won the vote if both were undefeated ? (1)
2011-LSU would have played in the Sugar and OK St would have played in the Orange. My guess is it still would have been LSU-Bama in the Sugar (2)
2012-Bama would have been in the Sugar, but would ND have played Bama or K State in the Orange. And would OSU have slipped in even after being on probation ? (3)
2013: AU to the Sugar and FSU to the Orange to Play Baylor or Bama. If they had beaten FSU and AU lost, then maybe he could have won it that year.
2014: Bama in the Sugar and FSU to the Orange to play TCU or Baylor.
2015: Clemson to the Orange to play OU, and Bama to the Sugar to play Iowa or OSU.
2016: Bama to the Sugar to play Penn St or Michigan. (4)
2017: Would not be in conversation.
So, I have it 6 to 4 in Bryant's favor.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:11 pm to Irons Puppet
I am no Alabama fan but I just can't bring myself to equate anybody with Bear Bryant.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:18 pm to randomways
both saban and bryant proved that they could adapt to the changing cfb game. bryant with that new fangled wishbone offense plus integrating his team and saban retooling his signature, huge guy defense to sleeker,faster hybrid type players, extending recruiting nationwide. then, last night, saban pretty much breaks all of his rules, takes out a proven qb and puts a true freshman qb in the championship game.
both had an eye for talent, the knack to develop that talent, the charisma to bring the talent into the program and the ability to change with the game.
both had an eye for talent, the knack to develop that talent, the charisma to bring the talent into the program and the ability to change with the game.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:24 pm to Irons Puppet
Actually, many say Bear was screwed out of a couple. I mean we will never know but had there been a playoff in place, I think Bear would have done just fine. People forget the politics of the old system and Alabama is a mostly rural state and Bama did not command the tv ratings that it does today. They didn't even have number one vs two in the old bowl system. The SEC was not considered the best conference and the system favored Big 10 and Pac 10 teams.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:27 pm to Irons Puppet
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It is 6 to 6 right now. But how many titles would Saban have under the system Bryant won his 6 titles ?
All of them. I'll take "Saban would have won them all." for $4000.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:27 pm to BarnHater
Bear. Saban’s team is driving to win but misses the FG.
Posted on 1/10/18 at 7:11 pm to Irons Puppet
Kind of like Jimmy johnson v Jeff Gordon.
Chase made it easier for Jimmy. Playoff makes it easier for Saban. Without bcs or playoff, no 2012 or 2018
Chase made it easier for Jimmy. Playoff makes it easier for Saban. Without bcs or playoff, no 2012 or 2018
Posted on 1/10/18 at 7:14 pm to Irons Puppet
The real question is will the job kill him like it did to Bryant or when Alabama has a 9-3 type season, will he be driven out of town with bricks thrown through his window like Curry?
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