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re: Saban: "It Was a Great Hit"
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:54 pm to AggieLandman
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:54 pm to AggieLandman
Has anyone actually seen targeting on a kickoff return or RB called before? On a form tackle?
It would be news to me, despite changes on the verbiage in the targeting rules for 2016. Most of the descriptors in the rules still are in context of defenseless players. In this instance, the stripe that would show you the "crown" of the helmet was off axis the whole play, which is what I presume they meant when they said it wasn't the crown involved.
That being said, even though it may have been technically legal, that type of hit should be flagged to get it out of the game. We just need to good ahead and ditch the kind coffee return in HS and college football as its an inherently risky play
It would be news to me, despite changes on the verbiage in the targeting rules for 2016. Most of the descriptors in the rules still are in context of defenseless players. In this instance, the stripe that would show you the "crown" of the helmet was off axis the whole play, which is what I presume they meant when they said it wasn't the crown involved.
That being said, even though it may have been technically legal, that type of hit should be flagged to get it out of the game. We just need to good ahead and ditch the kind coffee return in HS and college football as its an inherently risky play
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Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:55 pm to Pecker
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No reason to apologize.
He doesn't make the rules. He doesn't enforce the rules.
And it was a great hit, tbh.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 9:57 pm to 14&Counting
That's a joke. If that's the NFL, he'd be getting a large enough fine to buy your mom a new double wide.
Shoulda been called and you know it.
Shoulda been called and you know it.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:06 pm to Captain Crown
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:08 pm to 14&Counting
Saban doesn't appreciate the ramifications of helmet-to-helmet impacts in college football. When he played in college, he always tackled helmet-to-thigh....
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:09 pm to 3down10
Show me another replay that shows where his helmet his please 
Posted on 10/24/16 at 10:17 pm to Katy Tiger
Doesn't get called on kickoffs period. Also there was a helmet to helmet hit by A&M on OJ on a Bama TD in the same game and was not called. They just don't call helmet to helmet targeting unless it's on a QB, a WR during an attempted catch or during a blind-side block.
I know it hurts your world view but they are not favoring Bama.
Statistics show Bama opponents are penalized far far far less than the average. Haven't seen up to date stats but we led the nation in least penalized opponents going into UT game at less than four penalties a game (and UT only had one).
I know it hurts your world view but they are not favoring Bama.
Statistics show Bama opponents are penalized far far far less than the average. Haven't seen up to date stats but we led the nation in least penalized opponents going into UT game at less than four penalties a game (and UT only had one).
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:17 pm to Garfield
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Haven't seen up to date stats but we led the nation in least penalized opponents going into UT game at less than four penalties a game (and UT only had one).
126 out of 128, still last in conference. In fact every stat I have read suggest that not only are the refs not cheating for Bama, they are harder on them. But they ignore stats and fact when they don't fit their theory.They literally would rather be ignorant on the subject than to accept that they are getting beat by a better team.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:21 pm to viceman
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:30 pm to droliver
It could have been called helmet to helmet and 15 yards. Should have. But not targeting. Targeting can only be called on a defenseless player. Most people that complain about the rules don't actually know the rules. And if you rely on Verne and Gary for rule confirmation you probably don't need to be posting on a SEC board
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:40 pm to AggieLandman
Does anyone have an example of a defender on a kickoff being called for targeting for the tackle he makes on the ball carrier?
I can't think of a single instance.
People around here watch Bama games with some heavy confirmation bias as it relates to "Bama refs" but ignore the same shite for the other team. Really silly, but that's what the rest of SEC fanbases have been relegated to, since they can't win. Scapegoating.
I can't think of a single instance.
People around here watch Bama games with some heavy confirmation bias as it relates to "Bama refs" but ignore the same shite for the other team. Really silly, but that's what the rest of SEC fanbases have been relegated to, since they can't win. Scapegoating.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:44 pm to LSU GrandDad
After Saturday, I'm beginning to think midgets (Saban) are a protected class. First gays and trannies, now this.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:46 pm to justausedcarguy
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It could have been called helmet to helmet and 15 yards. Should have. But not targeting. Targeting can only be called on a defenseless player. Most people that complain about the rules don't actually know the rules. And if you rely on Verne and Gary for rule confirmation you probably don't need to be posting on a SEC board
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Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
Does not mention defenseless player.
Maybe you should learn the rules.
This post was edited on 10/24/16 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:51 pm to 14&Counting
This thread is a pretty good indicator that almost no one on the rant actually knows the targeting rule.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:53 pm to narddogg81
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This thread is a pretty good indicator that almost no one on the rant actually knows the targeting rule.
No, but they sure do know how to parrot Gary fricking Danielson.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:53 pm to Whens lunch
Helmet to helmet is a 15 yard penalty. Targeting is only called on a defenseless player.
A ball carrier is not considered a defenseless player. Show me an example otherwise and I will admit I'm wrong. Know the rules.
A ball carrier is not considered a defenseless player. Show me an example otherwise and I will admit I'm wrong. Know the rules.
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:59 pm to Mr. Elvert
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After Saturday, I'm beginning to think midgets (Saban) are a protected class.
But they are not defenseless.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:05 am to Tuscaloosa
quote:pretty sure gary danielson doesnt know the targeting rule
No, but they sure do know how to parrot Gary fricking Danielson
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:08 am to 14&Counting
I agree it wasn't targeting. The ball carrier cannot be defenseless if he has the ball. Just like shorty said. Special teams and WRs over the middle is what they are looking for.
And if you lay out the Penn State kicker.
Let the kids play ball.
And if you lay out the Penn State kicker.
Let the kids play ball.
Posted on 10/25/16 at 12:11 am to Whens lunch
quote:well considering wilson didn't use the crown of his helmet, it was a good hit. Also, there is another part to the targeting against a non-defenseless player that says other factors have to be present, such as launching. Targeting against a non-defenseless player requires crown of helmet + aggrevating factor. Targeting against defenseless player does not even require helmet to helmet, can be shoulder or forearm.
quote:
Targeting and Initiating Contact With the Crown of the Helmet (Rule 9-1-3)
No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
Does not mention defenseless player.
Maybe you should learn the rules.
This post was edited on 10/25/16 at 12:12 am
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