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re: Saban has his challenge ... at Alabama

Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:30 am to
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:30 am to
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I would be SHOCKED if he left.

How could anyone who knows anything about Saban be SHOCKED?

Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:33 am to
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Saban cost himself some money when he said he's too old to start over. He would have been much better served to just stay quiet and let Bama throw more money at him.



Saban could say I don't want another dime for the next two months, walk into the AD's office and say give me another two mil or I'm walking. Guess what the AD is gonna do?
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:58 am to
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Saban cost himself some money when he said he's too old to start over. He would have been much better served to just stay quiet and let Bama throw more money at him.



This implies that Bama is cheap and he has to use "leverage" of another job to get a raise at Bama. He's gotten his contract extended and his pay raised nearly each year the past 4 seasons. He's already the highest paid coach in all of college football. It isn't like Bama is underpaying him now.

If an offer elsewhere comes - or even if it doesn't - all he has to do is ask for the amount of money he wants to make and Bama will give it to him. It is the most one sided negotiation in the history of negotiations.

The Texas info comes from one of two places:
1) Sexton. If so, then it is Saban approved. This is the more unlikely of the two scenarios.
2) Texas. If so, it is not Saban approved and they likely lost any shot (however small that may have been) at getting him in the future.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94373 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:01 am to
I could like watching Saban teams again, that's for sure. Can one imagine the fricking teams that guy would put together at TEXAS?

I wish he would leave just so half the Alabama fanbase would have a meltdown and somehow lose internet connection and we never hear from them again.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:03 am to
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He's gotten his contract extended and his pay raised nearly each year the past 4 seasons. He's already the highest paid coach in all of college football. It isn't like Bama is underpaying him now.


Texas can more than likely scoff at that price.

As arrogant and most of you are, you guys can not NOT admit that Texas has the ability to basically do what they want and pay who they want and how much they want.

Again, imagine what he could recruit to TEXAS.
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:05 am to
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Texas. If so, it is not Saban approved and they likely lost any shot (however small that may have been) at getting him in the future


How so? I for one believe it was leaked by Texas and Saban doesn't truly have interest, but for arguments sake how exactly did they lose their shot. Bama didn't when they leaked it with Saban. The Dolphins didn't when they leaked it. If Saban did have any interest, he wouldn't say no because of some report.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:15 am to
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Texas can more than likely scoff at that price.

Well, they aren't doing it yet. Saban makes more than Brown and has for years.

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you guys can not NOT admit that Texas has the ability to basically do what they want and pay who they want and how much they want

I CAN admit that Texas has the ability to pay what they want. That said, you can NOT admit that Bama has the ability to match any realistic offer Texas would make. They aren't going to offer a college coach $20M per year. Anything $12M per year or under is matched by Bama without so much as a vote. No one would bat an eyelash at that. What do you honestly think Texas would offer in terms of salary that Bama couldn't/wouldn't match? Honest question.

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Again, imagine what he could recruit to TEXAS.

I see this a lot. He's finished with the #1 recruiting class in 4 of the last 6 years. How exactly is he struggling to recruit at Bama? Hell, the 2008 class had 6 first round picks in it. The 2009 class had has so far had 5 first round picks with AJ, Steen, and Stinson yet to be drafted. The 2010 class had 1 first rounder so far with Hubbard, Belue, and Mosley yet to be drafted. What's he going to recruit at Texas? 7 first rounders?
Posted by Matheson
Member since Jan 2012
987 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:24 am to
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Because nobody has ever heard that before from him. Like I said before, you gumps are safe until he gets on television saying that "he will not be the next coach of the University of Texas"

Once that statement is made..... he gone.



He already said it.

Then he went and beat Texas A&M in their own house.

I think we're okay.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:31 am to
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Bama didn't when they leaked it with Saban. The Dolphins didn't when they leaked it. If Saban did have any interest, he wouldn't say no because of some report.


Bama and Dolphins situations were different. The Dolphins pursuit was public and real-time. It was being reported as it happened. The Bama pursuit was through channels in December and Saban said he wouldn't visit it until after the season.

This Texas pursuit was months ago, should have remained in confidence, and was leaked for Texas' own benefit during the season. It creates a distraction that isn't wanted and could have been avoided.

I personally think Texas knows they can't get him so they leaked this info to show their fan base "we tried" all while putting more heat on Brown. That basically makes Saban a pawn that Texas knows they can't get, so they are using for their own benefit. He won't like that.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 9:32 am
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9543 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:33 am to
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I personally think Texas knows they can't get him so they leaked this info to show their fan base "we tried" all while putting more heat on Brown. That basically makes Saban a pawn that Texas knows they can't get, so they are using for their own benefit. He won't like that


I agree with this completely but you are being naive that this "leak" would cause Saban to run away "if" he had any real interest.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:38 am to
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12199 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:06 am to
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Saban cost himself some money when he said he's too old to start over.

Not at all. In fact, I think this more than anything signals he might actually be considering the new challenge. Think about it. When anyone who's getting older says "I'm just too old to do X", doesn't that really mean deep down that person wants to do X really, really bad?
Posted by Dplymkr88
VA
Member since Aug 2012
1091 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:30 am to
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I personally think Texas knows they can't get him so they leaked this info to show their fan base "we tried" all while putting more heat on Brown. That basically makes Saban a pawn that Texas knows they can't get, so they are using for their own benefit. He won't like that


I agree with this completely but you are being naive that this "leak" would cause Saban to run away "if" he had any real interest.


From Clarance Hill who is a sports writer in the Metroplex

Clarence Hill ?@clarencehilljr 37m
The regent going on the record was done to embarrass and mame. Now the people on other side going to dig in. It's just a mess from top down
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12199 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:33 am to
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Clarence Hill ?@clarencehilljr 37m
The regent going on the record was done to embarrass and mame. Now the people on other side going to dig in. It's just a mess from top down

Should be fun to watch
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:33 am to
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His agent, Jimmy Sexton,


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Agents for all of the top coaches field those types of calls. It's a part of what they do as agents, although it rarely becomes publicwhen those calls occur.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:35 am to
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although it rarely becomes publicwhen those calls occur.


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Clarence Hill ?@clarencehilljr 37m The regent going on the record was done to embarrass and mame. Now the people on other side going to dig in. It's just a mess from top down


Been saying this since this story "broke".
Posted by weedGOKU666
THE 'COLA
Member since Jan 2013
3741 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:37 am to
Only read the thread title OP, but lol if you think coaching at Bama is a challenge.

I could coach the Tide to a damn national championship.
Posted by Beer Bryant
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:39 am to
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I could coach the Tide to a damn national championship.


So you're better than DuBose, Franchione, Price, and Shula?...........Never mind.
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:39 am to
So what if someone from Texas talked to Saban's agent. What's all the drama about?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23129 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:49 am to
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Or the likely reason and most logical is Sexton releases these statements to get his client paid more money. He is not stupid, he knows Bama is willing to match Texas dollar for dollar.


No, this is not the most likely. In fact, this is the least likely reason for the leak. If Nick Saban wants more money, he asks for more money and Battles writes the check. Coaches that have won three national championships in four years don't negotiate. They get.

Saban is Sexton's dream client. Sexton gets paid for doing absolutely nothing other than negotiate contracts with Ford.

This particular leak happened because they wanted to embarrass Mack Brown and plant the seed in the still loyal fanbase that they could have had Saban.
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