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re: Saban "circling" Miles before BCSNCG video?
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:17 pm to TreyAnastasio
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:17 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Except for the fact that they were the second best team in the country.
No they hadn't. They had two hard games all year and lost one , at home. You say what you want , but it's an opinion. OSU AND Bama's resume is facts. You do see the difference, right.
It's a fact OSU beat 5 ranked teams and Bama beat 2. Ever since 2003 the BCSCG is nothing more than a popularity contest. Once the computers picked a team THE BIASED HUMANS DIDNT AGREE WITH, they changed the formula. this is why I've only cared about the sec title. Every year the BCscg game winner is questioned. Did they get the teams right? Was there a more deserving team? The sec title is need questioned. Never and it's because you aren't voted into the game.
I'm done with this subject. 2011 Bama is one of the best teams in modern CFb as was 2011 LSU. It's a shame thy we had such dominating teams the same year. Both teams were good enough to be champs.
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Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Saban "circling" Miles before BCSNCG video?
Bama was the better football team. OSU had a better resume, prior to te bowl season. It's a fact. Also I didn't bring this up. A Bama fan said I was butthurt because in the past I posted their resume's.
The only fact here is that you're too young and stupid to realize that a loss to a putrid team like Iowa State negates all those wins.
Or, then again, maybe Iowa State really was a better team than LSU. After what I saw on 1/9/2012, I think that's very likely.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
One thing is for sure.....LSU sure as shite wasn't the best team in 2011.....they way they played that night OSU would have won
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
I'm not counting why they were ranked when you played them. That means nothing. You count your ranked opponents after the season ends. Who care if you beat the #1 team in the country , in week 1 , if that teams ends the season UNRANKED.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:19 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
Saban "circling" Miles before BCSNCG video?
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Except for the fact that they were the second best team in the country.
No they hadn't. They had two hard games all year and lost one , at home. You say what you want , but it's an opinion. OSU AND Bama's resume is facts.
Again, you're clearly too young and stupid to grasp the concept that any comparison of schedules is purely opinion. Your opinion...albeit a moronic one...is that the Iowa State loss doesn't mean as much.
Grow up. Grow a brain.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:20 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Yeah...figures that a youngster like yourself would say that a loss to Iowa State is more impressive than an OT loss to LSU. But then again, maybe you're right. Iowa State probably would have beaten the shite out of LSU on 1/9/12.
Never once, NEVER has who you lost too outweighed who you beat. If that was the case Mich would've played Ohio st in 06 because Mich lost to OSU by 3 and Florida lost to auburn. It's never outweighed who you beat.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Considering alabama and oklahoma state posted the same record, your argument is pointless. Better resume how? Who did they beat? Oklahoma? Kansas state? Texas A&M?
They didn't beat, or play a great team all year. They beat some good teams yea. When it came time to pick the two best teams the pollsters look at the body of work. Both teams beat good teams, maybe oklahoma state beat a few more good teams than alabama. The difference lies in *wait for it* the eyeball test.
The pollsters see a loss to the best team in the country in over time and a loss to a terrible team in which a 17 point lead was blown. Advantage alabama in the loss.
Lets look at the wins. In alabama's wins, they destroyed everyone, by a lot, and the games were never in doubt. There were several occasions where OSU escaped by the skin of their teeth against decent football teams. It's obvious to everyone outside of louisiana that Alabama deserved to be there more than OSU and that they were a better football team. The root of this argument goes back to pre final BCS poll. That is the time that LSU fans were scared to death of a rematch for fear of what was coming so they told themselves, and actually convinced themselves, that OSU "deserved" to be there. That creates an automatic out in the event of a loss, that is the out the you play to this day. "Well y'all shouldn't have even been there."
That's what this all boils down to.
They didn't beat, or play a great team all year. They beat some good teams yea. When it came time to pick the two best teams the pollsters look at the body of work. Both teams beat good teams, maybe oklahoma state beat a few more good teams than alabama. The difference lies in *wait for it* the eyeball test.
The pollsters see a loss to the best team in the country in over time and a loss to a terrible team in which a 17 point lead was blown. Advantage alabama in the loss.
Lets look at the wins. In alabama's wins, they destroyed everyone, by a lot, and the games were never in doubt. There were several occasions where OSU escaped by the skin of their teeth against decent football teams. It's obvious to everyone outside of louisiana that Alabama deserved to be there more than OSU and that they were a better football team. The root of this argument goes back to pre final BCS poll. That is the time that LSU fans were scared to death of a rematch for fear of what was coming so they told themselves, and actually convinced themselves, that OSU "deserved" to be there. That creates an automatic out in the event of a loss, that is the out the you play to this day. "Well y'all shouldn't have even been there."
That's what this all boils down to.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:21 pm to RT1941
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I didn't know this - I thought a selection committee would choose the top 4 teams that would be in the playoff.
If you don't think it will be....try getting in w/out winning the conference.
Then you'll understand
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:21 pm to BamaGradinTn
Look old frick, again never has who you lost too outweighed who you beat. Period. Not once. I'm not young you dumb GUMP.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You say what you want , but it's an opinion. OSU AND Bama's resume is facts. You do see the difference, right.
Then why did all of the voters think Bama was the better team? Your right you are done with this argument.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:22 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Are you really this fricking dumb? Do you have any idea how the BCS ranks the #1 and #2 teams?
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Yeah I'm the dumb one. You realize that being #1 and #2 doesn't mean you are the BEST TEAMS. Just that you are ranked their and your resume has put you there.
Rick -
At the end of the 2011 season - LSU & Alabam were more efficient as a TOTAL team on offense and defense along with the level of difficulty of the conference in which they played than any other two teams in America.
Yes, even with LSU's OT win over Alabama earlier in the year. Total team offensive and defensive numbers don't lie. Both teams were and still are at the fricking top of the league right now today.
For the life of me, I don't see how some people can see it differently.
They are the best of the best - bottom line.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:23 pm to 14&Counting
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One thing is for sure.....LSU sure as shite wasn't the best team in 2011.....they way they played that night OSU would have won
This is such bs. Bama went 1-1 against LSU without ever stepping into TS. Period. We were the best team in the sec ( you know the games you aren't VOTED INTO) ad we have the trophy to prove it. Look I was trying to have a regular conversation but that old Gunt had to try and make it personal.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:25 pm to lsusteve1
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lsusteve1
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If you don't think it will be....try getting in w/out winning the conference.
Then you'll understand
We'll just have to wait and see.
But you are wrong - a team does not have to win their conference to make it to the playoff.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Or, then again, maybe Iowa State really was a better team than LSU. After what I saw on 1/9/2012, I think that's very likely.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit that you'd actually believe this....
UT/LSU/AU were all better than Bama in 2009
:see how stupid it sounds:
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Considering alabama and oklahoma state posted the same record, your argument is pointless. Better resume how? Who did they beat? Oklahoma? Kansas state? Texas A&M?
Because that poll you use to point out Bama was #2 says that before the bowl season
BAMA HAD BEATEN 2 ranked teams
Oklahoma st had beaten 5 ranked teams.
Bama only beat 3 teams with a winning record.
I guess you gumps are reading over this statement. BAMA WAS THE BEST TEAM IN 2011.
But they did get into the title game with a lesser resume than OSU. It's a fact.
Again BAMA WAS THE BEST TEAM in 2011.
This post was edited on 8/21/12 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:27 pm to RT1941
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We'll just have to wait and see. But you are wrong - a team does not have to win their conference to make it to the playoff.
No....but if you think the same scenario plays out then YOU are dumb.
No way Bama gets in....same situation.....with the new rules
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
I don't know about you, but 9/1 can't get here fast enough.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:28 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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It's obvious to everyone outside of louisiana that Alabama deserved to be there more than OSU and that they were a better football team.
I think Oklahoma State probably deserved to be there more than LSU when it really comes down to it. They would have given us a better game.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:28 pm to 14&Counting
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14&Counting
I wish Alabama posters like you would shoot yourselves in the head with a large caliber bullet.
Posted on 8/21/12 at 12:28 pm to lsusteve1
I thought this post was about the supposed "circling"? I had never heard of this and found it interesting that some Bama fans actually believe this scenario. I've met Saban a couple of time and actually had to escort him once. Unless you have a scholarship that he can pull there is absolutely nothing intimidating about the man in person. He is a good football coach though, actually since he is 3 up 3 down to LSU why didn't he do his circle for all the games and scare everybody?
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