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re: Saban blocking transfer of Smith. Mom not happy

Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:39 pm to
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As a Bama fan, that's a dick move. No one should restrict where players can transfer to.
What would you say if Kirby suddenly had 8-10 starters on Alabama's team wanting to transfer to Georgia?...would it still be a dick move?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71881 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:40 pm to
Huh? The point I'm making is that the non compete clause would be enforced. If you sign a contract that says you aren't allowed to leave for, say, any school in your division unless you are terminated, I don't see why a judge wouldn't uphold that. It's the same argument against Smith at the moment. There are plenty of other options.

I understand your point, but the difference is in the language. This happens in pro sports all the time. It's called the Reverse Clause.
This post was edited on 8/3/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71881 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:41 pm to
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“On Friday, June 17, I arrived at the athletic facility locker room to find my locker cleaned out and all of my personal belongings in the trash (photo attached) underneath trash,” Maurice Smith wrote. “These personal items included my family photos, written goals, inspirational and sentimental items memorializing my deceased former friend, roommate and teammate, Altee Tenpenny, and items of personal value from my former teammates.”




damn
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:42 pm to
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LINK


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Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:44 pm to
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What would you say if Kirby suddenly had 8-10 starters on Alabama's team wanting to transfer to Georgia?...would it still be a dick move?

Yes. I would feel the same way. College athletics is supposed to be for the kids. Let them go where they want, no penalty.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:45 pm to
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College athletics is supposed to be for the kids. Let them go where they want, no penalty


Surely you think they shouldn't be allowed to move where ever they want with no restrictions (sitting out a year). Do you not see problems that would arise from something like that?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
41482 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:46 pm to
It's funny how the roaches come out of the woodwork when anything sheds a negative light on UA football.
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:49 pm to
There are probably 10-12 things that attract a kid to certain schools. For many, the chance of playing on a championship caliber team is high on most lists. There is nothing wrong with a kid coming out of high school thinking he can play against anyone in the country but unfortunately kids go to school and realize that they aren't ready to compete on a championship level. There is a cost to learning you were wrong though and sometimes your not allowed to correct your own mistakes. I'm sure he and his parents knew the rules but we live in a time where we don't learn and go through things but would rather find a way to circumvent around them. Mo Smith find yourself a good school outside the SEC and play ball.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:50 pm to
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“On Friday, June 17, I arrived at the athletic facility locker room to find my locker cleaned out and all of my personal belongings in the trash (photo attached) underneath trash,” Maurice Smith wrote. “These personal items included my family photos, written goals, inspirational and sentimental items memorializing my deceased former friend, roommate and teammate, Altee Tenpenny, and items of personal value from my former teammates.”



Alabama All class All the time
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15717 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:50 pm to
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It's funny how the roaches come out of the woodwork when anything sheds a negative light on UA football.




Oh yeah the LSU fans are so reflective and engage in critical self examination all the time.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:50 pm to
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Surely you think they shouldn't be allowed to move where ever they want with no restrictions (sitting out a year).

I do think they should be allowed to move without sitting out a year. Most of these kids will never play past college. They shouldn't be punished for going after playing time at the best possible school for them. I would say coaches shouldn't be allowed to initiate the switch, but it should be fair game if the player contacts another school first.
Posted by KiffinsVisor
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2014
1129 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:51 pm to
with 2 losses. but yes they did, been almost 10 years since too. that must suck
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25415 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:52 pm to
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Smith’s family provided copies of a text message, the sender of which was blacked out, the text of which said: “Bro I can’t have u at facility. Not for workout, lunch, anything. All in or out policy. Sorry bro.”


Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1323 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:55 pm to
We don't actually need him this year per se. UGA is the odds on favorite to win the East next season and loses a few secondary players to eligibility. So it's probably in Bamas best interest to let him leave now...

Being a grad student should be different but the rules are in place.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2887 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:57 pm to
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He also pulled the scholarship of a recruit right before the season after he had moved in on campus.


Who?

Elliot Porter, a few years ago. I think LSU had several late qualifiers and weren't expecting everyone to qualify but all did. Miles offered him a grayshirt, but I think he asked for a release (which was granted). Same thing happened to another dude in LSU's class that year but he took the grayshirt...
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71881 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:59 pm to
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with 2 losses. but yes they did, been almost 10 years since too


all correct

point being Jones did not prevent LSU from winning a title and beating Bama 41-34
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30865 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:59 pm to
1st-Why didn't he ask for a release before spring practice so that other kids could have been worked into his position?

2nd- After he listed Miami as a school he would transfer to and Saban approved that request, why did he suddenly change his mind?

Does anybody in their right mind expect the coaches to want a player that doesn't want to be there to have any involvement with the rest of the team?

It sounds like some things that the public isn't aware of has come into play.
Posted by mikeb0870
Member since Sep 2015
366 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 12:59 pm to
I didn't see his stuff in the trash but there is two sides to every story. First why would Bama let him workout or eat when he's not part of the team. Did anyone tell him he needed to remove his belongings at an earlier time. He obviously knows the rules if he requested a transfer letter before the staff even knew where he was going. There are holes to his story which some can be explained and others, maybe not but he should just man up and understand what he got his self into and move on.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71881 posts
Posted on 8/3/16 at 1:01 pm to
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I didn't see his stuff in the trash


you a trainer or something?
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