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re: Rush Propst: HS Coach Behind Some of College’s Biggest Players Under Investigation

Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Serious question Bowl, this shooting up drugs stuff sounds pretty far outside of his normal MO right?


I don't believe Propst is dumb enough to be directly involved in his players shooting up steroids, or whatever is the specific allegation you're referring to. Propst has made a lot of dumb decisions in his own personal life, no denying that, but he's too experienced and successful of a coach to put directly involve himself in stuff like that. Athletes from every level shoot up steroids every day and regardless of what Colquitt says their own athletes will continue to do so even without Propst as HC. They just wanted Propst out for personal reasons and were willingly to dig up any piece of dirt they could, no matter how unfounded it was.

What of the authority figures who allegedly witnessed these things and allegedly heard players discussing these things but conveniently waited years to come forward about? Why weren't they concerned about the well being of these kids 7 years ago when they allegedly witnessed these things? Why not go after them for their part in it?

Why not go after the doctors who wrote what would be illegal prescriptions if these allegations are true allegedly "under the direction of Propst." He doesn't have the power to write prescriptions and the one mom talking about it said it happened while they were at an away game, where Propst would have zero influence over the local doctors. "Omg my son received a prescription for low level pain meds for his broken collar bone! The horror!" Why only go after Propst for that? The only logical conclusion is a personal vendetta vs Propst.


The first allegations against Propst in that article are about him missing too much time off work for his life saving cancer treatments, and buying sweats for his players That should tell you all you need to know about this witch hunt.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:50 pm to
Come to Knoxville and pump our twinks full of vicadin Rush
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:51 pm to
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Bowl are you related to propst family 1 or 2?


Neither

But my mom is friends with Propst's first wife so if anything my only recent connections to the man are through the one person who has more reason to hate him than anybody else.
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:01 pm to
You make some good points. What should have happened if the Athletic Trainer and/or Dr. witnessed it they should have reported it to administrators.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:05 pm to
I actually agree with Bowl on this. A lot of these stories don't quite add up. Like the kid who supposedly got ultram from Propst -- his mom writes a letter but never talked with coaches or staff about it and later declines to comment when it comes up in a news story post-firing.

I just can't imagine him handing that out himself. Did the team doctor write that RX? Why didn't the parents sue/prosecute? You better believe 95+% would sue everyone plus the school system. My theory there is that the kid told his Mom the team doc/coach gave him an RX for it when really he was just experimenting with drugs and had to come up with a story and that's why nothing came of it (just a theory though).
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:14 pm to
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You make some good points.


It happens from time to time, but don't get used to it


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What should have happened if the Athletic Trainer and/or Dr. witnessed it they should have reported it to administrators


If these things are proven true then every adult involved should be prosecuted for their part and I'll stop defending Propst, but for now I'm of the opinion that this is essentially a witch hunt bc his bosses didn't like that he wouldn't fully submit to them and he was unrepentant about it, and a few moms didn't like that he was too harsh on their precious little babies. Everybody I ever knew who personally played for the man only have positive opinions of him as a coach, with their only complaints being that his practices were tougher physically than most.
Posted by Icoachfb
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2019
1796 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:24 pm to
Yes IF he is given out drugs then everyone who knew should be charged. I also agree with another poster that if their child had a fractured clavicle why didn’t he go to a Dr. for a X Ray?

I guess time will tell what all he did
Posted by footballtimeintn
Nashville
Member since Feb 2013
732 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:49 pm to
Some of that stuff is a big deal. But about half of those incidents are nothing burgers. I wouldn’t even consider them incidents
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:50 pm to
Not a good look.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:01 pm to
Of course, that's the whole point so they would have an excuse to fire him without having to buyout his huge contract
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:02 pm to
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I don't believe Propst is dumb enough to be directly involved in his players shooting up steroids, or whatever is the specific allegation you're referring to. Propst has made a lot of dumb decisions in his own personal life, no denying that, but he's too experienced and successful of a coach to put directly involve himself in stuff like that. Athletes from every level shoot up steroids every day and regardless of what Colquitt says their own athletes will continue to do so even without Propst as HC. They just wanted Propst out for personal reasons and were willingly to dig up any piece of dirt they could, no matter how unfounded it was.

What of the authority figures who allegedly witnessed these things and allegedly heard players discussing these things but conveniently waited years to come forward about? Why weren't they concerned about the well being of these kids 7 years ago when they allegedly witnessed these things? Why not go after them for their part in it?

Why not go after the doctors who wrote what would be illegal prescriptions if these allegations are true allegedly "under the direction of Propst." He doesn't have the power to write prescriptions and the one mom talking about it said it happened while they were at an away game, where Propst would have zero influence over the local doctors. "Omg my son received a prescription for low level pain meds for his broken collar bone! The horror!" Why only go after Propst for that? The only logical conclusion is a personal vendetta vs Propst.


The first allegations against Propst in that article are about him missing too much time off work for his life saving cancer treatments, and buying sweats for his players That should tell you all you need to know about this witch hunt.


Are you shitting me? You don’t even know the allegations but are defending the alleged actions. Nothing like being informed.

A school who was a loser (athletically) took a risk, a risk/ high ward, on hiring a coach , that knows how to win and has a damn good resume, and made him the highest paid state educator had PERSONAL REASONS to run off the same coach the took risk, the national media heat to hire, who won state championships and was ranked nationally? They just wanted that guy gone?
Nothing like being informed.

I know it’s hard to believe, but a lot of people can get medicine from their local doctor. And a lot of those people don’t finish those prescriptions and hang to them. And their are some Doctors that will write prescriptions to someone and OVER prescribe AND don’t give a shite what’s happening to a month of 60-90 pills being used or needing a refill in a week. But, I believe the accusations are Propst had/ distributed pills accessible whenever they were needed, without parents or doctors consent or knowledge. That’s more than a cheating issue.
Nothing like being informed.

The issue wasn’t Propst missing work for cancer treatments or for buying team equipment or clothing. Propst was using work days to recruit and attend high profile events. Despite being the highest paid high school educator, he was charging the school for attending the seccg and to travel across the state to “talk to kids”. He owes 400+k in backed taxes. He was misappropriating funds and damn sure lying go try to get state reinbusments.


But there is nothing like being informed and commenting on things. I’ll hang up now.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:05 pm to
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Got to be sarcasm. You think it’s ok to dispense prescription drugs to a kid? The other stuff happens but giving a kid drugs.

Duh, ya think?

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt.

My reference was to all of his fans in two different states over the years who have defended this asshat guy because he wins games.

Look back ten years and you’ll see where I questioned this guy. (shite, old username.) Look back since 2012 and you’ll see where I questioned this guy on at least two other occasions under this username.

It was no surprise when this guy finally went down .... the only surprise was how long he lasted IMHO.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:06 pm to
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Meanwhile a coach like Josh Niblett who only cares about himself, his own image, and his own career gets a free pass just bc he talks about god and quotes bible verses

Ain't this the freaking truth. The ole "flex or flinch" thing should have proven this to everyone. He's a freaking idiot
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 11:12 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:33 pm to
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Are you shitting me? You don’t even know the allegations but are defending the alleged actions. Nothing like being informed.


I read the entire article that itemized and dated all the allegations him and there was nothing in there about players shooting up anything or steroids. Went back and word searched the article for mentions of "shooting" and "steroids" just in case I missed something and 0 mentions. That's why I worded it like that. I do remember people on here suggesting that when he was first fired which is where I assume SoG got that notion.

Yet you accuse me of being misinformed on the topic what do you have to say about that?

You have to admit some of these stories don't exactly add up and are awfully convenient. One of the "serious" allegations against Propst is that he was written up for is having knowledge of players teasing each in the locker room over UGA vs Bama football. Omg the horror! He was written up for that and made to write an apology letter over it. That doesn't sound to you like they were looking for anything and everything to come after him with that? What other explanation do you have for such consequences over something so menial than personal vendettas?

You're a UGA fan, y'all worship Erk Russell for making himself bleed by headbutting players helmets. Y'all even wore an alternate uniform specifically paying tribute to that behavior. But that was one of the terrible, evil things he put these poor defenseless children through. Geez, get them some therapy! You really don't see the hypocrisy in him getting in trouble from the UGA fan administration over that?



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I know it’s hard to believe, but a lot of people can get medicine from their local doctor. And a lot of those people don’t finish those prescriptions and hang to them. And their are some Doctors that will write prescriptions to someone and OVER prescribe AND don’t give a shite what’s happening to a month of 60-90 pills being used or needing a refill in a week. But, I believe the accusations are Propst had/ distributed pills accessible whenever they were needed, without parents or doctors consent or knowledge. That’s more than a cheating issue.


Yes and I already said that if these things are true then everybody involved should be prosecuted. What's the point in only going after Propst if these things are true? Do you not believe that the doctors who aided in these crimes should be punished as well, or do you believe that they should be allowed to remain on the street and practicing and continuing to potentially harm the public? Either way if you believe Propst was able to accomplish this through doctors over prescribing, illegally prescribing, or simply getting them from somebody who didn't finish their prescription like you suggested, Propst wasn't able to accomplish this alone and those who aided should be taken down as well. So I'll ask again, why should Propst be the only in trouble here?

Awfully fishy that with all the recent crackdowns and arrests of doctors all across the nation with sketchy prescription habits that literally nobody else is under any kind of heat for any of this.








Tbh you sound like you must have ties to one of the schools that suffered directly from Colquitt's success under Propst. I already said he's made some terrible decisions in his personal life, but let the man have his day in court before you lynch him.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:45 pm to
I am a Georgia fan. And I love seeing any and every Georgia school ranked nationally, PERIOD. I’ll argue for Georgia HS Football against any other state fan that will listen.

But again, Erk head butted players before the game, in attempt to promote his GetAfterTheirAss moto. Propst headbutted a sophmore in State Championship who screwed up while cussing him out, which was aired live across Georgia. The intent was very different. But again, I’m being informed is crazy.

And I agree with ya on EVERYONE involved in the pill and roid scandal should be prosecuted. But I’m afraid Propst dug his own grave. I was told he was directly telling kids what to take and was giving it to them. This was his last ditch effort to finally get to a major college and he blew it. I’m still confused how a school that’s profited 10 times over was on a “witch hunt” to rid themselves of the cash cow. Please explain that logic
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:54 pm to
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I’m still confused how a school that’s profited 10 times over was on a “witch hunt” to rid themselves of the cash cow. Please explain that logic



It's simple, the administration didn't like him because he wouldn't bow down to them. Propst had more influence at the school and in the community and they didn't like that. I heard this a year before he was fired directly from somebody I grew up who is still retained on the staff at Colquitt. Men in power tend to have big egos that bruise easily, money be damned. Trump is a prime example of this line of thinking, despite being over a billion dollars in the red over the last decade his ego won't allow himself to believe he's anything other than the world's greatest businessman.




ETA:

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And I agree with ya on EVERYONE involved in the pill and roid scandal



And again, there's nothing in that article with the full list of allegations against Propst that says anything about steroids. Am I still the one who is misinformed?
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:58 pm to
If Propst gave kids steroids or anything like that, he should be prosecuted. I just have a difficult time believing he would do that. I'm not saying he didn't do that, I'm just saying it would really surprise me. He's been a coach for a long time and would know that he couldn't do that.

Do I think that he's an a-hole.........yes
Do I think that winning is all that matters to him.......yes
Is there a reason that he hasn't been hired at a college........yes
Would I hire him at my high school..........you're damn straight I would
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:08 am to
BJ

He does know his stuff about Propst and others at that level - hence why I called him out right after this thread was started.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 12:10 am
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:21 am to
That’s BS. Propst turned Moultrie, Ga around and put Colquitt County on the map. Prospt was sole reason for swinging the county revenue. Colquitt County business owners love him, and the school system loved him....that’s why he was the HIGHEST GEORGIA PAID TEACHER. Colquitt took the gamble on Kilmer when NO OTHER program in the country would. Now Colquitt County is facing multi millions dollar law suits for Kilmers BS. It was a great deal on the front end, but Propst is going to cost the county now. It wasn’t a witch hunt...he screwed himself trying to run a program like “The Program”. If your connections were true, you’d know a lot more than you seem to portray on this forum. And Trump doesn’t have anything to do with this. That’s a solid, jackass move. But your as cool as a wet fart so continue. It’s Trumps fault Propst is an arse clown, it’s Trumps fault BJ was oppressed by his state...hometown....college...frat....
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:37 am to
Yeah, that was kind of my entire point. Success and admiration breeds contempt, especially among contemporaries. Sorry if you're too dense to see that.

And I didn't blame Trump for anything. Just used him as an analogy for people with big, easily bruised egos. But I do like how hard you latched onto that point while continuing to ignore the fact that you called me out for being misinformed on the subject when clearly you were the one who was taking rumor for fact
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:31 am
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