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re: Rumor on the Twitters that Milroe pulled a hamstring in practice yesterday
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:09 pm to houstonearler
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:09 pm to houstonearler
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Bama DL should own the A&M OL. Johnson gets knocked out and A&M is in trouble.
Jimbo Fisher's a pretty dumb guy when it comes to football and his dumbness is really the only thing Alabama can count on to win this game.
If he does one or both of the below two things, Alabama wins.
First of all, Max Johnson's deep ball hangs in the air like a fart. If he throws those, then they become legit 50/50 balls and Alabama's secondary will get some picks for sure. Secondly, if he runs, he'll get injured or cough up the ball.
Those two things are what it will take for Alabama to win. Fisher's dipshitty enough to make it happen. This is probably why A&M isn't favored by 7.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:09 pm to Shaft Williams
Hurts was terrified to throw the football in the 2nd half of 2017. I don't think DaBoll did him a lot of favors, but at some point when a guy will only throw to a man standing wide open with nobody around him and refuses to throw to a spot or into a window there isn't much you can do. Jalen worked his arse off in 2018 with Enos and Locks to lay the foundation for the 2018 SEC Title Game, what Oklahoma got and helped improve and what he is today, but he was not a good quarterback in 2017 (he was better in 2016 solely because he played less tight, but he was entirely a one read, usually one side of the field, QB).
There isn't much argument about that. He was a great running QB, but he was lost as a passer. Far worse than what Milroe is, IMHO (and I don't think Milroe is terrible advanced at it).
There isn't much argument about that. He was a great running QB, but he was lost as a passer. Far worse than what Milroe is, IMHO (and I don't think Milroe is terrible advanced at it).
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I think Milroe is worse than Hurts at Bama b/c Hurts at least took care of the ball.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
No, Hurts couldn't take Daboll's coaching. Daboll has proven himself to be an excellent football coach as an OC in the NFL and he's been pretty good as an NFL head coach. Hurts needed that season behind Tua to learn. Much like I believe Milroe needs another season on the bench to learn.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:16 pm to Shaft Williams
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I think Milroe is worse than Hurts at Bama b/c Hurts at least took care of the ball.
Hurts was much better than Milroe, in fact in terms of capabilities, they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence together. And although they do have alot in common, Hurts had muuuuuch better instincts. That alone gives him a tremendous advantage over Milroe.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:17 pm to Shaft Williams
Cover 3 podcast mentioned the hamstring rumors today as well.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:17 pm to Trumansfangs
Just saw Bovada has it Ags -1 now
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:18 pm to houstonearler
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Bama DL should own the A&M OL. Johnson gets knocked out and A&M is in trouble
Aggie O vs Bama D will be interesting. Both are solid and balanced without any glaring weaknesses. The biggest issue the A&M O has had so far has been penalties and TO's though, no one has pushed them around.
That's also why the Aggie D vs Tide O is the more interesting matchup. The biggest thing that jumps out is A&M has 30 TFL and 14 sacks in the last 2 games and Bama has has struggled to protect their QB. Maybe they figure it out but playing on the road at Kyle is a tough place to do it. My hat will be off to them if they can.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:20 pm to Pandy Fackler
"Hurts was much better than Milroe, in fact in terms of capabilities they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence together. And although they do have alot in common, Hurts had muuuuuch better instincts."
...by a lot.
...by a lot.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:23 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Hurts was much better than Milroe in fact, they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence together.And although they do have alot in common, Hurts had muuuuuch better instincts. That alone gives him a tremendous advantage over Milroe.
He had much better running instincts. He had absolutely zero passing QB instincts. I get it, Milroe sucks, but Jalen was playing QB with the following weapons around him:
Calvin Ridley
Jerry Jeudy
Henry Ruggs
Robert Foster
Devonta Smith
Josh Jacobs
Damien Harris
Najee Harris
And here are Jalen's passing stats from that season against the 7 best teams he played:
Here are his stat lines:
Florida State : 10/18 (56%), 96 yards, 5.3 YPA, 1 TD
Vanderbilt : 9/17 (53%), 78 yards, 4.6 YPA, 0 TD
Texas A&M : 13/22 (59%), 122 yards, 5.6 YPA, 1 TD
LSU : 11/24 (46%), 183 yds, 7.6 YPA, 1 TD
Auburn : 12/22, 112 yds (55%), 5.1 YPA, 1 TD
Clemson : 16/24 (67%), 120 yds, 5.0 YPA, 2 TD
Georgia : 3/8 (38%), 21 yds, 2.6 YPA, 0 TD
He was horrid in 2017. Anything else is the definition of revisionist history.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He had much better running instincts. He had absolutely zero passing QB instincts. I get it, Milroe sucks, but Jalen was playing QB with Calvin Ridley, Jerry Jeudy, Henry Ruggs, Robert Foster, Devonta Smith and Irv Smith Jr (along with Josh Jacobs, Damien Harris and Najee Harris in the backfield).
Here are his stat lines:
Florida State : 10/18 (56%), 96 yards, 5.3 YPA, 1 TD
Vanderbilt : 9/17 (53%), 78 yards, 4.6 YPA, 0 TD
Texas A&M : 13/22 (59%), 122 yards, 5.6 YPA, 1 TD
LSU : 11/24 (46%), 183 yds, 7.6 YPA, 1 TD
Auburn : 12/22, 112 yds (55%), 5.1 YPA, 1 TD
Clemson : 16/24 (67%), 120 yds, 5.0 YPA, 2 TD
Georgia : 3/8 (38%), 21 yds, 2.6 YPA, 0 TD
I never said he was a great passer but he was a much, much better football player.
Not only can Jalen Milroe not pass the ball, his instincts and ability to evade pressure straight up sucks.
Here are the so called average or limited Alabama quarterbacks who beat A&M saturday.
GMac
AJ
Blake Sims
Jake Coker
Jalen Hurts
Any one of those guys could win this game because they're good football players. Jalen Milroe isn't.
I hope I'm wrong.
Oh and Alabama's receivers this year. They're legit.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:38 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Here are the so called average or limited Alabama quarterbacks who beat A&M saturday.
GMac
AJ
Blake Sims
Jake Coker
Jalen Hurts
Greg McElroy had a 3 game stretch were Alabama scored 22, 20 and 12 points in 2009. He contributed the following:
Ole Miss (22 pts) : 15/34, 147 yds, 4.3 YPA, 0 TD, 0 INT
USC (20 pts) : 10/20, 92 yds, 4.6 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT
Tennessee (12 pts) : 18/29, 120 yds, 4.1 YPA, 0 TD, 0 INT
43/89, 359 yards, 4.0 YPA, 0 TD / 2 INT
The only reason Alabama didn't go 9-3 that season is because the defense and Mark Ingram won us those 3 football games.
Jake Coker was incredible the last 1/3 of the season in 2015. Jake Coker was a mess for much of the first half of the season. He threw interceptions, he missed wide open guys, he refused to pull the trigger on intermediate throws.
Everything about Blake was almost identical to what Milroe is now. Nice deep ball, good first read thrower, panicked when first read wasn't there was liable to make a horrible turnover throw.
Again, just absurd revisionist history pre-Tua. We had some average to good college QBs who played some putrid football in stretches from 2007-2017. You roll 2017 Jalen Hurts or 2009 Greg McElroy out there Saturday and it is just as likely (if not more depending on what stretch of the season we're talking) that we lose the football game.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We had some average to good college QBs who played some putrid football in stretches from 2007-2017.
I agree with you. Where we part is I think Milroe is way worse than any of those guys. I think Milroe is so far the worst QB of the Saban tenure at Bama. To say this guy has been at Bama for 2 years prior to starting and looks like this is bad business.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
God please let this be true so we can finally say goodbye to this shite-stain, peanut brain, turnover machine garbagecan fake QB.
West title back in the realm of possibility with TyGod at the wheel.
West title back in the realm of possibility with TyGod at the wheel.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 2:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Everything about Blake was almost identical to what Milroe is now. Nice deep ball, good first read thrower, panicked when first read wasn't there was liable to make a horrible turnover throw.
Not true. Sims was so much better than Milroe.
Statistics can be misleading but Sims was way better than Milroe via statistics and the eye test.
LINK
Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Greg McElroy had a 3 game stretch were Alabama scored 22, 20 and 12 points in 2009. He contributed the following:
Ole Miss (22 pts) : 15/34, 147 yds, 4.3 YPA, 0 TD, 0 INT
USC (20 pts) : 10/20, 92 yds, 4.6 YPA, 0 TD, 2 INT
Tennessee (12 pts) : 18/29, 120 yds, 4.1 YPA, 0 TD, 0 INT
43/89, 359 yards, 4.0 YPA, 0 TD / 2 INT
The only reason Alabama didn't go 9-3 that season is because the defense and Mark Ingram won us those 3 football games.
Jake Coker was incredible the last 1/3 of the season in 2015. Jake Coker was a mess for much of the first half of the season. He threw interceptions, he missed wide open guys, he refused to pull the trigger on intermediate throws.
Everything about Blake was almost identical to what Milroe is now. Nice deep ball, good first read thrower, panicked when first read wasn't there was liable to make a horrible turnover throw.
Again, just absurd revisionist history pre-Tua. We had some average to good college QBs who played some putrid football in stretches from 2007-2017. You roll 2017 Jalen Hurts or 2009 Greg McElroy out there Saturday and it is just as likely (if not more depending on what stretch of the season we're talking) that we lose the football game.
Nah, you're the one revising history man, not me.
You live in the numbers. It seems at times that's the only way you can understand this game.
All those guys I listed were straight up ballers, right out of the gate. They were not always good quarterbacks but they were always good football players with excellent instincts for the game and it's that part of it, numbers and percentages can't measure. Try and recall what you saw in those years versus what you can tabulate and you might have different thoughts on it.
Jalen Milroe, almost half way through the season has shown he is neither a good football player or a guy who has good instincts for the game.
Mentioning him in the same sentence as those other guys is an insult to them.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:03 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Jimbo Fisher's a pretty dumb guy when it comes to football and his dumbness is really the only thing Alabama can count on to win this game.
Sucks for you that Petrino is calling the plays now then.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:05 pm to aggressor
I can this game too…
I am hearing Max is hurt… Did I do it right?
I am hearing Max is hurt… Did I do it right?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:06 pm to aggressor
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Sucks for you that Petrino is calling the plays now then.
Out of curiosity - has Petrino EVER beaten Saban?
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