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re: Rule Changes you want to see

Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:28 am to
Posted by jryanw
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:28 am to
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1 free transfer after 18 months on campus. Except for players in legal trouble. No lateral transfer for players in legal trouble.


frick this! Hell no. Players would be transferring constantly. Nobody would have a backup QB.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:32 am to
Much like the NFL, some sort of rule that works parity into recruiting. You could only have so many 5*s, so many 4*'s etc on a roster. It would have some interesting side effects like getting the top recruits to commit earlier as teams would only have so many spots for the best of the best. A leveling of the talent playing field would be good for the sport, and it would only really impact 4 or 5 programs across college football (Bama, Clemson, Ohio St, UGA (off the top of my head)) How many time do we really want to see Bama and Clemson in the playoffs anyway?
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 7:34 am
Posted by jryanw
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:34 am to
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1) get rid of kick offs and punts. They slow the game down and are two of the highest risk events for injuries. Start with the ball on the 25 on a kick off and allow 40 yards for all "punts" when a team elects to surrender possession 2) 1 yd downfield rule for blockers on pass plays 3) make intentional PI a spot foul (ie. grabbing a jersey of a guy running past you to avoid a TD). Inadvertent or normal kinds of PI would still be 15 yards. 4) limit substitutions to 1 player per play


1. Kickoffs and punts are fun. This is a dumb idea, Nancy.
2. I agree but they would never enforce it so what’s the point.
3. There is WAY too much room for error in this being a judgment call. Either make it a spot foul regardless or leave it alone.
4. What would teams do on the goal line?
Posted by jryanw
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:37 am to
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You could only have so many 5*s, so many 4*'s etc on a roster.


This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen posted on this forum in a long time and we have a lot of dumb posts. Who’s rating would you use? So a kid that grew up loving Georgia can’t go to Georgia because their are too many 4* already on the roster??? Coaches would be “processing” unsuccessful 5*’s and 4*’s constantly
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:39 am to
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That's a CFL rule (1 point Rouge)



This could really change the complexion of a 15 yard Personal Foul by the offense on a scoring play.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:41 am to
It isn't targeting when an offensive player ducks his head at the last second.

Ineligible man downfield should be 1 yard instead of 3.

Add an additional layer of pass interference where it is only automatic first down if the defensive player grabs/trips an offensive player who is running by him for a touchdown.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:43 am to
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This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen posted on this forum in a long time and we have a lot of dumb posts. Who’s rating would you use? So a kid that grew up loving Georgia can’t go to Georgia because their are too many 4* already on the roster??? Coaches would be “processing” unsuccessful 5*’s and 4*’s constantly



I figured a Bama fan would be the first one not to like the idea...

I didn't say it was perfect idea, but having only 3 or 4 teams a year that are in the hunt for the championship is killing the game.

If a kid really likes UGA, they can commit the day the get an offer. If coaches "process" 4 and 5* players, that's good for the teams that end up getting them.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 7:46 am
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:47 am to
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Much like the NFL, some sort of rule that works parity into recruiting. You could only have so many 5*s, so many 4*'s etc on a roster. It would have some interesting side effects like getting the top recruits to commit earlier as teams would only have so many spots for the best of the best


This could be way, way too easily manipulated by a friendly staffer at Rivals.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 7:55 am to
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This could be way, way too easily manipulated by a friendly staffer at Rivals.



That's why you would use a talent composite like the 24/7 that combines the ranking of all the major services. Additionally/alternatively the NCAA could set up their own rankings (because the are so good at everything else... :lol)

Nationally, on average, there are only 25 5* players per recruiting class. So, a theoretical rule could be, you can only sign 1 per class. That's 4 on any one teams roster at 1 time. There are about 300-400 4* players, so lets say for round number 5 or 6 per class (20-25 per roster at any one time). there are about 1200-1400 3* players so no limit on those. The concept would be there is a total talent composite index number for your signed players (walk-ons and the like don't count), that is a your talent cap number (much like a salary cap in the NFL). If could be reevaluated each year based upon the performance of the players on the roster. FWIW, 24/7 already has such an index. 24/7 talent composite. Based upon some of the data on that index, the best rosters would look like what Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Southern Cal, Oregon and Tennessee have today. As I said earlier, the only teams it would really effect would be UGA (16 5*), Ohio State (14 5*), Clemson (11 5*), and Alabama (12 5*). Some of the other teams would have to slim down on 4*'s, but that's not to onerous as you can only play 11 at 1 time.

I dunno, just spit balling. It's fun to think about when you know it's not going to happen.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 8:04 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:15 am to
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change linemen downfield from 3 yards to 1 yard to match the pros (and what college used to be)


Would be #1 change as it's realistic and would get football back to being football, not basketball on grass.



I think parody is good for cfb(I know bama fans, I know) so I would like to see scholarships reduced to 70 to spread the talent out. 20 players per recruiting class, grad transfer not counting against the 20, but against the 70.


Also since we already fricked up and went to a playoff, expand to 16 with 1st round at higher seed, with the 4 games in the second round played on jan 1st. Cotton at 11, orange or peach at 2, rose, then sugar. Semifinals are played at higher seeds stadium, finals is the weekend before the superbowl.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:18 am to
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That's why you would use a talent composite like the 24/7 that combines the ranking of all the major services. Additionally/alternatively the NCAA could set up their own rankings (because the are so good at everything else... :lol)

Nationally, on average, there are only 25 5* players per recruiting class. So, a theoretical rule could be, you can only sign 1 per class. That's 4 on any one teams roster at 1 time. There are about 300-400 4* players, so lets say for round number 5 or 6 per class (20-25 per roster at any one time). there are about 1200-1400 3* players so no limit on those. The concept would be there is a total talent composite index number for your signed players (walk-ons and the like don't count), that is a your talent cap number (much like a salary cap in the NFL). If could be reevaluated each year based upon the performance of the players on the roster. FWIW, 24/7 already has such an index. 24/7 talent composite. Based upon some of the data on that index, the best rosters would look like what Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Southern Cal, Oregon and Tennessee have today. As I said earlier, the only teams it would really effect would be UGA (16 5*), Ohio State (14 5*), Clemson (11 5*), and Alabama (12 5*). Some of the other teams would have to slim down on 4*'s, but that's not to onerous as you can only play 11 at 1 time.

I dunno, just spit balling. It's fun to think about when you know it's not going to happen.


That's good and all but way too complicated, just lower the scholarship numbers like I stated. You don't need 85 players.


I wouldn't mind allowing players a 1 time transfer after their freshman year. If they do that though they lose the grad transfer option.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 8:21 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:21 am to
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would get a 15 yard pregnant


What the hell is wrong with your autocorrect?


Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:26 am to
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That's good and all but way too comically, just lower the scholarship numbers like I stated. You don't need 85 players.



Did you just not watch LSU staggering through their entire schedule with less than 85? Yeah, get me some of that.
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4117 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:41 am to
I want to see a new rule where any head coach 5’6” tall and shorter is not eligible to coach. They need one of those height tests that you see at amusement parks
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 8:42 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:42 am to
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Did you just not watch LSU staggering through their entire schedule with less than 85? Yeah, get me some of that.


We were down to 50s through terrible roster management, that was on O.

Did you not watch bama, Clemson and Ohio state dominate college football the last decade. Hell you could even throw in LSU.

Those 4 teams, have won 9 out of 10 national championships this past decade. Pretty much one of the other out of Clemson or Alabama has finished second every year too.

Clemson and bama have aged 4 out of 5 years in cfl and are gonna play again this year.

Let's throw Oklahoma in cause they seem to make it a ton and out of 5 teams since the cfp has started

Out of 28 slots, those 5 have made up 21 from those 4 teams. Throw in notre Dame and it's 23 out of 28 slots. So 5 teams made up 75% of the playoff. Take lsu away and it's 4 teams made up 71%.

Bama, Clemson, osu has participated in the NC game every year since cfp started.



Yea give me some more Clemson vs Bama!!It's so fricking good for the health of the game to have the same two teams playing every year!!!

of course bama fans don't want it, it's not great for them, doesn't mean it's not great for overall health of cfb. Take off your bama glasses and look at overall health of the sport. It wouldn't really be good for LSU, but I can objectively say it would be good for overall health of the sport.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14094 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:44 am to
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We were down to 50s through terrible roster management, that was on O.

Did you not watch bama, Clemson and Ohio state dominate college football the last decade. Hell you could even throw in LSU.

Those 4 teams, have won 9 out of 10 national championships this past decade. Pretty much one of the other out of Clemson or Alabama has finished second every year too.

Clemson and bama have aged 4 out of 5 years in cfl and are gonna play again this year.

Let's throw Oklahoma in cause they seem to make it a ton and out of 5 teams since the cfp has started

Out of 28 slots, those 5 have made up 21 from those 4 teams. Throw in notre Dame and it's 23 out of 28 slots. So 5 teams made up 75% of the playoff. Take lsu away and it's 4 teams made up 71%.

Bama, Clemson, osu has participated in the NC game every year since cfp started.



Yea give me some more Clemson vs Bama!!It's so fricking good for the health of the game to have the same two teams playing every year!!!

of course bama fans don't want it, it's not great for them, doesn't mean it's not great for overall health of cfb. Take off your bama glasses and look at overall health of the sport. It wouldn't really be good for LSU, but I can objectively say it would be good for overall health of the sport.




I could make a good argument that LSU has more talent year in and out than Clemson. My suggestion: Do better.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:50 am to




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I could make a good argument that LSU has more talent year in and out than Clemson. My suggestion: Do better.


This year we didn't

LINK

Did you iss the part where I included lsu and said this

quote:

Take off your bama glasses and look at overall health of the sport. It wouldn't really be good for LSU, but I can objectively say it would be good for overall health of the sport.


How fuxking stupid are you? I just said objectively it would not be good for lsu, just like it wouldn't be good for bama/clemson/osu

But you can't make an argument why more parity would not be good for cfb overall. Just like you can make an argument that having all sections of the country involved in the cfp wouldn't not be good for cfb.

Plenty of arguments on why not to go to the playoff to begin with and I can honestly say, told you so, but now the cfp is killing the sport. Even those that benifit from it like herbie are recognizing it and calling it out.

So frick off with your be better comment and look out for the good of the sport or there will be no sport as the money will dry up.
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