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re: Ruggs bail was only $150,000

Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by TigerTee
Member since Nov 2020
806 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:43 pm to
Yeah post the link to the news article (with his name and mugshot) to Tigerdroppings and expose one of my good friends more than what he already was. Yeah I will pass.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70879 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:44 pm to
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Yeah post the link to the news article (with his name and mugshot) to Tigerdroppings and expose one of my good friends more than what he already was. Yeah I will pass.

Sounds like he’s famous already

Also sounds like you’re leaving a lot out of the story
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15456 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:45 pm to
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During a bond hearing a judge wants to know what the criminal history is, if the person has ties to the community, if they have family, if they have a job, if they’re a flight risk. I said almost all of those in the post, but you thought you needed to say “welll acccruuyallllyy that’s vague and could mean anything.” No, it doesn’t mean anything in that context. GTFO



Okay, now I know why you stopped doing those hearings, you sound like you'd be awful.

Everything underlined goes into determining whether they're a flight risk, so not sure why you listed them separately. Not going to continue to waste my time responding to you, but glad you're no longer handling bail hearings
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70879 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:46 pm to
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Everything underlined goes into determining whether they're a flight risk, so not sure why you listed them separately

Because the judge literally asks all of those things to defense counsel
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Not going to continue to waste my time responding to you,

K bye
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24662 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:49 pm to
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but absolutely could be a self-harm risk


Ok.... and??
Posted by TigerTee
Member since Nov 2020
806 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:53 pm to
Ok, post a link to your Facebook or LinkedIn or any personal social media account you have on Tigerdroppings.

And yes you caught me. His son was with him but the son was only injured. Did not know leaving out that detail would shed so much more light on the topic at hand.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4985 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:56 pm to
They could have made it a million and he would still get out with a bonding company for around 110,000.

If he uses a bonding company to cover that bond he’s out for a whopping 15-17k that he won’t get back.He can put up the full $150k in a cash bond and get it back for his daughters life.

Hope he gets the max 20 years.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:58 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64167 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:57 pm to
Foreshadowing when his charges are reduced and he gets off with minimal jail time
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134953 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:59 pm to
Why would he be given bail at all?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
70879 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Did not know leaving out that detail would shed so much more light on the topic at hand.


What would shed more light is what his initial charges were, not how the case ended. If your buddy was sober driving down an unlit road at night not speeding and that’s what the officers thought from the beginning i call bullshite. If he was intially charged with vehicular homicide then sure.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23076 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:03 pm to
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Because of the reason where I have seen many of other people get a bond at or just above that for a less severe crime. That is with clean records before hand. Happened to a buddy of mine for something less severe (BAC under the legal limit but hit a guy walking on the shoulder on a dark back road).




So your buddy drove drunk and killed somebody? That is the exact same crime.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:05 pm to
Probably the max for DUI manslaughter.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16094 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:08 pm to
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And yes you caught me. His son was with him but the son was only injured. Did not know leaving out that detail would shed so much more light on the topic at hand.



Well if he was arrested under suspicion of driving while impaired and the son was a minor it could certainly influence the judge’s thinking.

Some points that need to be considered. First is that the judge sets the bail amount. No two will view the circumstances of a case the same way so comparing different cases is an exercise in futility.

Second, this happened in Nevada. Anyone really familiar with the laws and normal practices surrounding bond amounts in Nevada? Didn’t think so. Comparing a bond amount for a Nevada case with one in Louisania, Alabama, or anywhere else is a more futile exercise than comparing bond amounts between different judges on different cases.

Third, as others have pointed out, short of ordering him held without bond there’s no amount that he can’t make. He’s going to bond out. The only question is will he be able to avoid violating the conditions placed on him. No drinking, driving, or drugs until trial. Unless he has a very strong and forceful support network that’s going to be a challenge with the stresses he’s under.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16094 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:11 pm to
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Why would he be given bail at all?


The eighth amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
Posted by TigerTee
Member since Nov 2020
806 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:18 pm to
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So your buddy drove drunk and killed somebody? That is the exact same crime.


Define drunk. He was below the legal BAC level and not going 100+ over the speed limit. Also hit a pedestrian that was walking on an unlit country road where he should not have been walking. Clearly the exact same crime right?
Posted by TigerTee
Member since Nov 2020
806 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:20 pm to
You bring up valid points to why but it does not sway my opinion on how it’s bullshite it was only $150,000. I understand where you coming from though and how it is different judges in different states, etc.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 7:21 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134953 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:23 pm to
I didn't say the bail was excessive.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
13540 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:56 pm to
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Why would he be given bail at all?


Because he's not been found guilty yet.

He will be though if what we've seen is correct
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
4040 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:00 pm to
Bail is used as punishment many times in reality because a bondsman will want 10% of the total usually to post a high bond - so if someone's money is tied up in their property mostly a 1 million dollar bond means they are out a 100K to the bondsman. And if you don't have wealth you could be stuck in jail for over a year before trial.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Bamarap
Hoover
Member since Oct 2015
370 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 8:02 pm to
According to witness testimony the woman in the car was screaming as she burned to death. Ruggs gets no sympathy.
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