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re: Returning SEC running backs against SEC Competition & Ranked teams

Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:14 pm to
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Tuscaloosa

I approve his ^ message.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:14 pm to
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not sure there's a close 2nd


maybe not, but there is a clear 2nd. His name is Derrick Henry
Posted by tjv305
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:20 pm to
Could you add the amount of attempts per TD? Some of the players could have had a lot more attempts. Some of the players could have played more ranked teams too.

The Arkansas back seem low for they hype they get.
Posted by BigAppleTiger
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:27 pm to
List is solid. Chubb is definitely the top RB going into the season with the best body of work. Henry is poised for a big year as are Wilds,William, and Walton depending on their respective OLines. Fournette has great potential but we'll have to see how its realized. Not hard.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:36 pm to
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Could you add the amount of attempts per TD? Some of the players could have had a lot more attempts. Some of the players could have played more ranked teams too.


Added.
Posted by ALT F4
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:38 pm to
Chubb plays in the east. This is dumb. Fournette is the best RB in the nation
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:39 pm to
While A&M's running game left a lot to be desired last year, you can't leave out Tra Carson.

vs. SEC Competition and ranked teams:

69 carries, 301 yards, 3 TD
Posted by jiffyjohnson
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:40 pm to
All LSU, all the time
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:41 pm to
Will add.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:46 pm to
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Chubb plays in the east. This is dumb. Fournette is the best RB in the nation


Fournette's ranking in the SEC West in each category:

YPC - 3rd
TD - (t)3rd
Rushing att. per TD - 5th
vs Ranked Teams - 6th
Receiving - 5th
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:48 pm to
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Chubb plays in the east. This is dumb. Fournette is the best RB in the nation

Wow. solid point.

I wonder what Chubb's stats are against the almighty SECW?

Or even - EVEN - Chubb's and LF's stats against the same SECW opponents?
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:51 pm to
All three of Carson's Touchdowns came against South Carolina when they were ranked 9th.
Posted by Vol92
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:51 pm to
Jalen Hurd is as good as any RB on the list, including Chubb. Hurd is the best natural receiver of any real SEC back.

He played behind an OL with all 5 being new starters and we played 3 QBs throughout the season.

Chubb is a beast, but it's easy to look at stats when he came in to the best situation. An offense that was already built to spotlight the RB position. Three different running backs with 50+ carries averaged 6.4 yards or better in UGA's offense.
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:53 pm to
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I wonder what Chubb's stats are against the almighty SECW? Or even - EVEN - Chubb's and LF's stats against the same SECW opponents?


vs Arkansas
Chubb - 30 carries, 202 yards, 2 TD, 6.7 ypc
Fournette - 5 carries, 9 yards, 0 TD, 1.8 ypc

vs Auburn
Chubb - 19 carries, 144 yards, 2 TD, 7.6 ypc
Fournette - 10 carries, 42 yards, 0 TD, 4.2 ypc
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:54 pm to
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Tuscaloosa


Subtle.

Very Subtle.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:54 pm to
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came against South Carolina when they were ranked 9th.


South Carolina finished the season 7-6 and unranked. The stats website I used to create the list apparently uses end of year rankings to calculate their numbers.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 7:58 pm to
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vs Arkansas
Chubb - 30 carries, 202 yards, 2 TD, 6.7 ypc
Fournette - 5 carries, 9 yards, 0 TD, 1.8 ypc

vs Auburn
Chubb - 19 carries, 144 yards, 2 TD, 7.6 ypc
Fournette - 10 carries, 42 yards, 0 TD, 4.2 ypc


both teams also played florida and kentucky. Post those numbers too.

ETA: Dallas already did it a few weeks ago

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Lets use all four games vs common opponents...

LF vs UF...27 for 140... 5.2ypc & 2 td's... 0 rec's...

Chubb vs UF... 21 for 156...7.4ypc & 1 td...5 rec's... 59yds & 1 td...


LF vs AU... 10 for 42yds...4.2ypc & 0 td's...0 rec's

Chubb vs AU... 19 for 144... 2 td's...7.6ypc...2 rec's for 48yds...


LF vs UK...15 for 40yds...2.7ypc... 1 td's ... 0 rec's

Chubb vs UK...13 for 170yds...1 td...13.1...0 rec's



LF vs Ark... 5 for 9 yds...1.8ypc 0 td's.. 0 rec's

Chubb vs Ark...30 for 202yds...6.7 ypc...2 td's...1 rec for 8 yds



So... vs 4 common opponents...

LF... 57 for 231yds... 3 td's... 4.1ypc... 0 rec's no TD's....

Chubb...83 for 672yds...6 td's... 8.1ypc...8 rec's for 115yds & 1 td...
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 8:02 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:00 pm to
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both teams also played florida and kentucky. Post those numbers too.


Why are you arguing with idiots?
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:00 pm to
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Jalen Hurd is as good as any RB on the list, including Chubb.

Nothing backs that up, nothing, except personal opinion of Vol fans. Which is fine, but the facts shown by the stats are not even remotely close. Especially given Chubb didn't even start the first five games of the season and only averaged about 6 carries per game during that time frame.

What Chubb did - really in just 8 games, as a true freshman, is truly mind blowing.
Posted by Vol92
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Posted on 5/29/15 at 8:04 pm to
According to the stats Kelvin Taylor is above Jalen Hurd in every category except one, so its obvious Taylor must be the superior SEC back that everyone would prefer to have.

While one played behind a makeshift OL with 5 new starters and the other played behind an OL with 4 players drafted last month...

A little common sense is needed
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