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Retiring numbers is counter productive

Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:48 pm
Eli Manning wore #10. Well so did about 100 other Ole Miss players. They gave their sweat and blood to the university. Football is a team sport. I hate giving individual honors to individual players. What if Eli didn’t have the opportunity to wear #10 because it was retired?

This practice is shameful and limits players from competing for the best #10.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Member since Sep 2019
11165 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:51 pm to
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This practice is shameful
There's about 1000 other things I'd improve with CFB before I got down to the "shameful" practice of numbers being retired.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:53 pm to
Should just retire the players Jersey, not the number for eternity.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/23/20 at 5:58 pm to
What a shitty way of thinking
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10628 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:01 pm to
Ole Miss retired Archie, Chucky (someone wears #38 every years so its not really retired but rather reserved), and Eli. How many has your school retired? Start there; we don't care what you think about our school.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:05 pm to
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What a shitty way of thinking


It’s my body, I can think anyway I want. Better to have an original thought than crapping in someone else’s.
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:15 pm to
OP has the IQ of a red brick IWABH
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:18 pm to
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What if Eli didn’t have the opportunity to wear #10 because it was retired?
He would have worn a different number and then would have had that number retired.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Well so did about 100 other Ole Miss players.
How many of them were close to being as good as Eli?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:21 pm to
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I hate giving individual honors to individual players
Who else are you going to give individual honors to?
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:26 pm to
It's not sustainable if you do it too much but it's fine.

In Eli's case he's getting honored for the name above the number more than what he actually did in the number, but it's their program and they can honor who they want.

Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:43 pm to
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Who else are you going to give individual honors to?


Nobody. It’s a team sport, win together and lose together
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 6:53 pm to
I do like LOU'S tradition that only the best players can wear certain Jersey numbers.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71469 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 7:13 pm to
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OP has the IQ of a red brick


Truth
Posted by JohnnyRebel
Colorado
Member since Sep 2014
7195 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 7:37 pm to
I don’t think it’s shameful, but you should have a damn good reason to retire a number.

For your Example, I agree, Chad Kelly wore number 10 after ElI and broke Ole Miss records, and this number shouldn’t be retired imo.

But a good example of where a number should’ve been retired is NASCAR, and the #3 car. Dale was the biggest name in the sport, died on the last lap of the biggest race in the sport, and they were correct for trying to retire it, but then fricked that up too, and let some mediocre nascar driver take it.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18203 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:19 pm to
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Well so did about 100 other Ole Miss players


A player has a # from 1-5 yrs (sometimes 6). I don't know the avg length of time a player holds a #; but, including walk-ons, it is somewhere between 1-5 (sometimes 6) yrs. Call it conservatively 2 years as an avg, but I'd bet its closer to 2.75 yrs.

Ole Miss football has fielded a team every year since 1893, except for 1897 (due to a yellow fever epidemic) and 1943 (due to World War II). So, only 125 chances to wear a # (assuming they play this yr), which is probably a tops of (2 yr) 62 players to (2.75) 45 players wearing # 10.

I'd wager NONE of the other players were in the ballpark of Eli in college of the pros.

Bottom line, retiring 3 numbers in 125 years isn't very drastic. He earned it, and its pretty cool that 3 Mannings have their # retired... they are the first family of the SEC.
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:57 pm to
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How many of them were close to being as good as Eli?


Chad was 100x better.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19165 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 8:21 am to
I like the "retired jerseys" rather than retired numbers. UT has retired the jerseys of Peyton Manning, Johnny Majors, Doug Atkins, and Reggie White for their performance on the field and Bill Nowling, Rudy Klarer, Willis Tucker and Clyde Fuson (four UT players who died fighting in WWII).

As of last week, Peyton Manning is the only living person to have a retired jersey at UT.
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