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re: Refs blow it again...USC recovered punt vs Bama was illegal.

Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25936 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:21 pm to
Laughing..if AI was calling it we'd have 30 holding calls a game.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9136 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:21 pm to
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That;s the whole point short bus,


The issue is youre only talking about the questionable (it wasnt blocking in the back) that benefitted you.

You haven't said a peep about the god awful holding call that took a TD off the board for USC
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25936 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:24 pm to
Holding isn't reviewable..this was. Even if not a penalty it still should not have been USC ball for the reasons described in my post.

Your man UNQUESTIONABLY was not engaged by ours. He was shoved into the football and by rule its our ball at the point your recovered it.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 5:32 pm
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5828 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:29 pm to
Dude he was pushing him in the back from the point of contact. He pushed him for a yard or two and then pushed him into the kick returner to knock him down.

Even if it’s like you said and the Bama player turned his body at some point he has to realize he is pushing him in the back and readjust.

This play is very similar to offensive pass interference. On a OPI play a receiver will push off the defensive player to gain an advantage to catch a pass thrown to him. This player is doing something similar. He is pushing the Bama player in the back to gain an advantage.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31811 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Dude he was pushing him in the back from the point of contact.


Did he have a hand on his back? Yes. But he also had a hand on the side which means it wasn't a block in the back. Your player rotated his back to our player from that point and by definition that's not a blocking in the back. If it was, then everyone getting blocked would just spin to draw a penalty...

YOU WON. GET OVER IT.
This post was edited on 10/26/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25936 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:33 pm to
Even if not a penalty our man unquestionably was not engaged with yours. Your man shoved ours into the ball and that does not make it your ball,,,. by rule.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5828 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:37 pm to
He is shoving the Bama player in the back. He first shoves him into the football and the he shoves the Bama player into the kick returner to knock him down. He was controlling where he wanted the Bama player to go.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25936 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:38 pm to
Rule states if our player was not engaged with the SC player and he shoves ours into the ball, its not a free ball.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9136 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:39 pm to
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He is shoving the Bama player in the back. He first shoves him into the football and the he shoves the Bama player into the kick returner to knock him down. He was controlling where he wanted the Bama player to go.


lol LSU fans are right about yall. Yall whine a lot. That wasn't a foul, yall are the only ones complaining about it.


And again...you won. Just move on.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4065 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:39 pm to
I wondered the same thing live. It looked like the play only happened because the defender was pushing the blocker into the ball and also the return guy. I've seen guys get hit by the ball while blocking before but not that sorta domino effect of pushed hit bal hit return man
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25936 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:40 pm to
It also wasn't a free ball, the refs blew the call.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5828 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:44 pm to
I was trying to point out to the other poster that the SC player was pushing the Bama player in the back. He was not only pushing him but if you watch the video he is directing the Bama player where he wanted him to go. How can he force a guy into touching the football then redirect him into knocking down the Bama kick return man if he wasn’t pushing him from the beginning.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5828 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:48 pm to
If that’s not a fouls then why shouldn’t every special teams coach in America not teach his players to find a guy with his back turned and then push them into the football if they are close enough to cause a turnover. That was an awful no call and highlights the problems with officiating in the Sec right now.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
20293 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:50 pm to
You would think every fanbase would, at the end of the day, want competent refs officiating their games. Take away the 'Bama logo on the uniforms and I wonder if the people saying, "quit crying" could admit these refs are awful and it was a missed/terrible call?

And SC fans complaining about the hold on the Sellers TD, consider it a wash for the uncalled DPI's on at least three of 'Bama's receivers that ended in a turnover on downs and two punts.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31811 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:53 pm to
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And SC fans complaining about the hold on the Sellers TD,


To be honest, if you look back, it was mostly LSU and Auburn fans complaining about that call...
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
20293 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:55 pm to
No surprise there. Blaming the refs is a corndog tradition.

Point still stands, though.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25936 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 6:07 pm to
I didn't have a dog in the hunt and I sure can't be accused of being an Auburn homer, I'll tell you Auburn got screwed at Oklahoma because they did.

I just want competent officials getting calls right.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
20293 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 6:08 pm to
That's what everyone should want, but it's been made clear in this thread the officials can get it wrong as long as it helps 'Bama's opponent.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9829 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 6:20 pm to
Beat SC and the refs. Nice
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5828 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 6:31 pm to
The only reason I even bring it up is because someone else started the post. People need to start shaming some of these missed calls though because it’s the only way we will ever get any improvement in officiating overall.

I think it was the play before the Sellers TD that it was 4th and long and South Carolina picked it up. There was a pretty clear hold on that play that would have gave the ball over on downs to Bama. SC ended up with 3 points on that drive that would have been critical at the end of regulation if Bama did not score the go ahead TD.
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